Is this cannabalization or nute issue

New development also. Couple leaf tips curling. Could all of this be part of nute burn and not a deficiency? Will continue just feeding plain phed water til I hear back. I guess that would be first step if nutes are causing anyway. Sees like the leaves are bowing down until they curl up all crumbly looking. It's getting super close to my buds now :-(. I am in a rush so these 3 pics are under the grow light but I think u can still see whatsup.
 

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First off you’ll never get humidity where you want using fabrics without some crazy fans going or a dehumidifier. Get the dehumidifier... looks good for a recovery better than mine lol (white widow) just never bounced back looks terrible
 
Shit just went legal to grow for me and I blew quite a bit on this grow. Trying not to make the wife mad lol. I have a small one but it sucks. I just have to unzip the door sometimes for now but I'll get one eventually. Really hope someone can chime in with a diagnosis soon. Getting nervous lol
 
Shit just went legal to grow for me and I blew quite a bit on this grow. Trying not to make the wife mad lol. I have a small one but it sucks. I just have to unzip the door sometimes for now but I'll get one eventually. Really hope someone can chime in with a diagnosis soon. Getting nervous lol
Don’t worry your good lol keep plugging away.
Leave it on outside the tent it will still help that’s what I do.
Here I’ll go show you my f*kd up plant so you feel better
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Don’t worry your good lol keep plugging away.
Leave it on outside the tent it will still help that’s what I do.
Here I’ll go show you my f*kd up plant so you feel better
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Thanks...doesn't make me feel a ton better but appreciate u trying . Just wanna know what I should do. Bueller?


Just watered 2.5L (usually do 1.25L every other day so just did double) and runoff ppm was 964-1003. Think that is a good measurement now. Was 1500 when did same during first sign of nute burn
 
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Thanks...doesn't make me feel a ton better but appreciate u trying . Just wanna know what I should do. Bueller?


Just watered 2.5L (usually do 1.25L every other day so just did double) and runoff ppm was 964-1003. Think that is a good measurement now. Was 1500 when did same during first sign of nute burn
The point I was trying to make with the picture was I dropped fan duct and cut its head off messed up the feed multiple times.. still looks like I’m getting smoke lol
So your gonna to!!
Just feed it ph’d water next time
Regularly until runoff and should be in a proper range then it takes a week or so (more like 2)for it to work it out
Meaning look better, so you still gotta feed right or you’ll look like mine
I was getting lazy to be honest and I guess that’s what I get
 
:toke: Hey Bdub, thanks for getting us the info needed,...

A few big picture things first, but let me start with saying the plant is doing OK, I see no red alerts going off here!

Part of what your seeing in symptoms is normal senescence in the fans leaves,... they are supposed to pale out and shut down, what nutes that are mobile within the plant and stored in there are being removed and used up-- a good thing! *( not all nutes are mobile within the plant once taken in and metabolized, several, mainly micronutes, are locked in place and can't be translocated to other places... Have a good read through the Defc. Pic Depot in the Sticky section above this one...)

Likely, part of the problem is the very dubious Fuxfarm soils. They have been a source of problems noted in this infirmary for years (I used to run this gig here, but got burnt, taking a break)... A lucky few get bags that are OK, different subcontractors making and sourcing materials I suspect, but many do NOT. I have watch their soils for years, #1 problem is it's undercooked and often badly acidic right out the bag; OF is usually the worst, HF tends to be better because it's a milder soil... But bugs, rick, shit debris and poor mixing/cooking have been stake faults seem consistently. Fighting shit soil for pH, nute release stability and such can make a new grower throw in the towel!
pH is sooo critical,... I used to recommend the Accurate 8 soil pH probe (Control Wizard), not the cheapo- skinny rod pH probes you see at stores, those are shit... recently I had to buy a new A8, and it's wonky! Quality control is a joke anymore sadly... Only reliable alternative is an expensive high quality unit from Blue Labs or similar company. Those work like a pH meter, with an electrode bulb, so while very good, they do require proper care/maintenance like a liquid-only pH meter does...
Run-off testing for pH is lousy for this, best is can tell you is if the pH is way off and so mandates correcting... there is a way to get a half decent reading but it's a PITA to do... the method is also in the Sticky Section....

Feeds seems OK for ppm load, frequency too, and the runoff ppm not terrible, but high... tells you the plant isn't eating through your inputs fast enough and is building up... mind that you adjust your ppm reading to allow for what the water itself is bringing in...
Flushing is more of an emergency step to do, it shouldn't be the default correction method.... it's a kind of a shotgun blast fix, and it has it's down side. It strips everything out, not just the excess nute elements, plus it's basically super saturating the soil with water, which does smother the roots and O2 starve them for a bit = stress.... So, it can help "reset" pH and ppm in there, but it puts you in a roller coaster cycle of watering, feeding, etc., and that is a bitch to work through and not make matters worse sometimes...
Any corrections will take days to show, only fuck-up's usually show fast- :rofl:

The toughest part of the learning curve is the nutes IMO,... further curves thrown at you are what the specific cultivars, even pheno's are like for tolerances, demands, behavior etc/,... no "one size" fits all!
Big Bloom is a misnomer, typical FF idiots and their cutsie names... look at the NPK#'s, all in the decimals; this is not a base fertilizer, it's a supplement and while good, at any stage, it's no substitute for Tiger bloom,... good that you have that :thumbsup:...
How much N, P, K going in at different stages is the entire nut, so long as you use complete nute profile products (secondary and micronutes as well), supp's like PK boosters may not have these important nutes in the, so heads up on that...Demand changes as the plant ages, with stages,... this graph says it all-->
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* sometime, look up the APTUS grow bible PDF, a very good summary in that document*
You will see in the Defc. Pic Depot, pg 2, several nute interaction charts, graphs.. it's a confusing mess I know, but grind through some of it to get a feel for how nutes interact, especially how antagonistic uptake issues can screw with your grow/feeding... Too much of anything at the wrong time can start presenting "defc.'s", that aren't from lack-of, but bad interactions/uptake by excess of others, and/or pH being off... I know it's a bloody mess, but you get the gist... it's why fixing prob's is such a skill itself, having to tools to get the info needed, and all that....


I gotta get going now, but at this stage, mind your inputs,... it's late in the game, hard to "fix" things, and some manky fans will not ruin your bud
as long as you aren't overfeeding as the plants demands are dropping in final blooming,...
 
@B_dub I am a stoner and I missed the tag sorry! @Waira thanks for chiming in. I concur with the FFOF FFHF syndrome. I would like to reinforce the idea that flushing these products does not work well. You need to be feeding balanced nutrients right off their chart. (Remember the flush cycle shown is for Coco only) That means in week 6 it is 3-2-2 tsp of each. You have only been feeding two parts you need all 3. The other products listed are beneficial but not mandatory. I would use them or things like kelp, and You should feed at a max PPM of 550 for autoflowers Not counting your starting water. So that is about 50% of this chart. Now since you have flushed this I would go with half a dose of recharge or other Bennies. Just PHed water for a couple of days then feed, water, water, water, repeat.

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Thanks so much @Waira @Mañ'O'Green . I bought some florikleen coming from Amazon today but I guess I should just skip flushing w that? I havent given it a TRUE flush it's entire grow but dunno if that's even required w autos cuz if conflicting info. Just double the amount I water it with twice. If I did s true flush, I'm assuming I'd need to double or triple that amount (like a full gallon or more for my 3 gallon pot...most I've done is 2.5L)

So your saying I should still use a little bit of grow big one more time or so along with tiger bloom? Like once a week for week 10 and 11? @Mañ'O'Green. I am entering week 10 on Tuesday so wondering if it's too late for that now.

I also bought some azos and mykos wp for my next plant that's at 5 weeks. Would this current plant also benefit from some of those added ir is it too late? It will be shipped to me by Wednesday it says.
 
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No more flushing mate! If she was a smoking shit-show hot mess from overfeeding, maybe, but not the case here...
As a general rule, flushing amount should be a s little as you can get away with, and done fast so as to not suffocate the roots (O2 starve)... this means you need to test the pH and ppm of run-off several times as you go... sometime a lot less clean water is needed than the actual pot volume itself, though such flush agents can help for sure...

No more Grow man (or inoculants), that time is weeks past now,... Always mind those N-P-K #'s, and note the chart I posted and the stage you're at. Granted that's for a photo plant, generalized, but you get the gist... Your plant is on the final lap here, flogging with more nutes is unwise as demand is tapering off... light hits of Tiger and BB is the ticket, maybe a week of nothing but water to clear the pipes some, that's it! The time for any real correction and "fixing" is past, now you just don';t want to make matters worse with overfeeding...
This is the challenge with auto's, you have little time to fix things, small windows of time to work in to maximized your production with the right balance of nutes when they need it most...

Next grow will be the time to climb that learning curve better! I can't tell in the pics how close to done she is, but under 2 weeks I'm thinking...
 
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