Is this a Cal/Mag def?

yeah sounds like they misled you....

bt guano is tough to flush out.... but you should flush anyway to get all the extra crap out... lol and get ph on point... def check ph firstthough... we need to know that historically to get a better bigger picture..

:smokebuds: let us know bro
 
wet and dry cycles are not an issue when it free draining enough its the sort of mix that would dry out 3x a day thus the reason its not a problem
yeah hand watering will help, it will put the wet and dry cycles in your hands so you can adjust for the mix your using
http://alternativegardensupplies.co.uk/AutopotsExplained.pdf
 
Okay, so I am gonna go get something to get my PH down and some water, then when I get back will flush her out (with ph correct water, right?) then I will not give her any nutes and when I do should I get her new ones, and not use my Biobizz ones? Also I will disconnect her from the res until I harvest so I can change my medium...real pity cos I just sprouted my new Lowryder in the same medium...if only I knew this 2 days ago...:cry: How did I manage to get this far into my grows without being told off? I've explained my system to so many folks...I suppose I only have myself to blame. I really did think this was a premium, and easy kinda set up..obviously no idea what i got myself into...I only wanted to use organic nutes to stay away from chemicals as much as possible.
 
go with the boibizz as i believe agito is very familiar with that... you'll be ok mate... dont b dicouraged... we'll help you sort it...

yes... flush with ph correct water... normally for soil i say 2 - 3 times the pot volume.... i might make it 4x in your case...

so 2 gallon pot would be 8 gallons phed water flush... its a lot lot... but i feel with the stuff thats in there its neccesary...

its not to say those thing swouldnt work properly employed... just start with the basics and as you leanr up you'll get it...

check in my signature... when you have some time read up on that deficciencies thread... lot of good info there...:smokebuds:

also check FD's gude to hefty autos...

heres some ph charts for starts:

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once you get the mix right you will out yield any soil grows peroid even using organics. I will not tell anyone off if there not having issue.. if its not broke attuide.
flush with ph neutral water and then in a day or so id add the biobizz at 2.5ml per litre
dont use anything other than perlite coco and your choice of nutes organic or not, biobizz can be used in hydro it just requires more care
your ph swants to be a touch higher than hydro because your going organic of the top of my head after nutes id be looking at around 6.2 and 7 before nutes

BIOBIZZ Newsletter, 09 2006


Hey there!,



Not everybody knows, but it is possible to use Biobizz products on Hydro systems, and it is being done already. Especially here in Holland (on rockwool), in France (NFT and Coco) and Spain (Aeroponics).



Biobizz products were originally designed for growing on soil, but since we have OMRI and SKAL/EKO certifications (to prove and ensure it is 100% biological) we filter and process some of our components in such a manner, that they can work in universal way, regardless if you are growing on rockwool, NFT or with an automated Cocosystem



The basic rules:



Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice work without any problem on all hydroponical systems, like NFT, rockwool, Coco, Clay pebbels, Autopot / Aquasystems, Aeroponics etc,etc.



Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice can be stored in tanks or nutrient barrels for about one week, but only if a good circulation pump is added as well. Always work clean, Biobizz nutrients contain no preservatives.



Biogrow/ Fishmix, You can use it, but it decomposes very quickly, because of it’s concentrated ingredients. In an NFT system or nutrient tank it would mean you'd have to refresh the tank every 2 days instead of once a week. Also you have to really know what you are doing. Since it can go wrong easily if you don't pay attention, we do not promote it.



For automated sytems, it’s the same story. Biogrow/ Fishmix, decompose in two days, and start to foam. So if you have prepared a solution with water Biogrow and/or Fishmix, use the content of the tank immediatly. Besides the mix of these two products can clogg up the tubings of your system. Use at least ø4mm tubings for your watering system to prevent this. It can be advised after feeding to flush the tubings with additonal water, clearing out all remaining residue.

For automated coco systems, Biogrow/ Fishmix, can be best used as a topfeeder by hand. Simply water by hand 2-3 times a week to avoid smelly and foaming nutrient barrels. If you add Biogrow/ Fishmix, to your tank make sure you use the complete content at once!



Using simple filters like a panty or old t-shirt can help filter larger particles in Biobizz nutrients, without loosing power, it will help to prevent clogging.



Fishmix and/or Alg-a-Mic: can be used as a foliarspray, you can continue doing this (2-3 times a week, 1-2ml per liter) untill the second week of flowering, then you have to stop, because these two products should not come in direct contact with the flowers.

The Fishmix makes sure you have enough nitrogen (if you are growing/flowering on NFT, this is the only extra source of Nitrogen Biobizz can provide (besides the Nitrogen in Biobloom), but after the second week of flowering you might need to add an additonal product to maintain specific Nitrogen levels if your plants show deficiencies.

With only Topmax and Biobloom it will lack nitrogen, magnesium and other usefull elements. Not so much because Biobizz products are crap, but because the NPK levels of 100% organic products can never be higher than 8.



Sometimes,depending on the seize of the plant, and in specific systems, after the second week of flowering a higher NPK level is required than Biobloom can offer on it’s own. Soil for instance, is a much better buffer and much richer in minerals than the water in an NFT tank. As we already said, Biobizz is originally designed for soil.



For dosage on hydroponical and Coco systems, we advise to follow our growchart for lightmix + aprox. 40%, So 5ml becomes 7 ml, 2ml becomes 3 ml and so on.



You can find our growchart on www.biobizz.com under downloads/resources



So to evaluate this whole story: Topmax, Bloom, and Rootjuice are multifunctional products that you can use in combination with other nutrients in any system.



Fishmix and Alg-a-mic as foliar spray 1-3 ml 2-3 times a week, till the second week of flowering



Biogrow/ Fishmix: In a hydrosystem do not use unless you know exaclty what you are doing or if you like to use it as a topfeeder on Coco systems.
 
go with the boibizz as i believe agito is very familiar with that... you'll be ok mate... dont b dicouraged... we'll help you sort it...

yes... flush with ph correct water... normally for soil i say 2 - 3 times the pot volume.... i might make it 4x in your case...

so 2 gallon pot would be 8 gallons phed water flush... its a lot lot... but i feel with the stuff thats in there its neccesary...

its not to say those thing swouldnt work properly employed... just start with the basics and as you leanr up you'll get it...

check in my signature... when you have some time read up on that deficciencies thread... lot of good info there...:smokebuds:

also check FD's gude to hefty autos...

heres some ph charts for starts:

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Thanks JM...
I have been using this Biobizz chart, I use it generally at half the amount so I have never fed my plants a lot at all to be honest. I have learned how sensitive they seemed to be.
I will flush as you say, I have done it a few times but not with Ph'ed water...I also have been living by that deficiency list of yours...I have the tab open constantly. I only ask nowadays when I feel it's a real issue...
Thanks for the PH charts too though! Tbh ph is the one thing I struggle with getting my head around, not sure why..but both nutes and ph have taken me a while to get used to. I think when I get my PH pen it will really help a lot.
Thanks for the help and interest JM and everyone, I really appreciate it and am going to do everything I can to save this and my Lowryder grow.
 
@Agito
Thanks Agito. I will get the mix right, I will just have to do it once these ladies are done, she has been really happy and is growing like crazy aside from these issues.
Glad to hear that too cos I was questioning my choice of growing hydro all together, although I have enjoyed it a lot so far, so yeah perlite coco it is, and I will try stay as organic as I can.
Thanks for the Biobizz info too, and also the info on what my ph should be, that really is useful for me as you obviously understand my system pretty well now.
Will keep you all updated on my ladies progress, hopefully it won't be any bad news.
 
Toxicity and PH update

Hey Guys

Okay so last night I managed to get my PH down to a neutral 7 and flushed her out with about 40 liters of water. I also replaced the water in my res (Agito when I took my plant out to do this, the medium was totally dry...I never see the dry periods usually but this gave me some hope regarding dry periods...I will still change the medium when I can though)

This morning I have seen the damage is no worse, leaves are looking greener all-round, though the one thing is they seem to have more 'canoeing' than they did yesterday or anytime so far. Could this be a heat issue, it's DAMN hot here today so thinking I may have to change my schedule so her lights are off during midday.
Anyone have any idea what this could be? Possibly the later effects of the guano still? Also, when should I re-set her nutes now that I have flushed her, should I give her a few days to rest first?
Thanks in advance!

---------- Post added 11-12-2011 at 11:14 AM ----------

Sorry Agito never saw you have already answered my when to feed now question! Thanks...
 
auto pots should always be moist ish as the valves always come on when there no water in the tray as thats how they are designed to work
but the mix should hold twice as much air to compensate i would check the valve is not clogged
shes had alot of stress id give her time to sort her self out and not worry about the canoeing as it causes no harm
 
Awesome thanks Agito, yeah I think you may be right about the clogging as I mentioned, it always has some water and the medium is usually moist at the least.
Yeah never see much mention of the canoeing so it just freaked me out a little, yeah will let her rest and hopefully that should help!
Thanks again for all the help, you guys are awesome!
 
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