Live Stoner Chat Is cannabis dead? biodiversity is seriously threatened.

[HashMaster]

That little Manila envelope is how an oz got to be called a "Lid" back then.

With a full oz inside you could just barely close the lid of the envelope.

And a 1/4 lb of the best Lumbo gold was $30 - $35

 

[pop22]

They'll do like Monsanto and hire their own private army and goons to go out and threaten growers with lawsuits or violence. In fact, they'll partner with (Now Bayer/Monsanto ) as Monsanto already controls 80% of the fruit and vegetable seedbanks and companies. I've heard rumors B/M looking to buy cannabis seedbanks. Soon it will be goodbye Dutch Passion! They'll sue every small breeder they can find for not (licensing) their genetics.

too many small breeders for any corporation or company to have the effect you are worrying about. even with them holding patents. we will all go illegal again.
and grow them out of exsistance. I started smoking in 1963, first grow 1965. and worked with cannabis for over 50 years all of it illegal. and can go back to that if needed.

 

[Tony21]

They'll do like Monsanto and hire their own private army and goons to go out and threaten growers with lawsuits or violence. In fact, they'll partner with (Now Bayer/Monsanto ) as Monsanto already controls 80% of the fruit and vegetable seedbanks and companies. I've heard rumors B/M looking to buy cannabis seedbanks. Soon it will be goodbye Dutch Passion! They'll sue every small breeder they can find for not (licensing) their genetics.

Absolutely, think the microbreweries, doesn't stop you from brewing your own, but if you reach a certain size and quality, an irresistible invitation to become a big company brand member or something will follow.
Whether that is good for quality control and genetics development is more relevant. Nobody growing legal crops commercially would by their seeds/genetics from a small experimental supplier.
Cannabis will become part of the well established system of patents and royalties in place for legal plants

https://www.uspto.gov/patents-getti...ications/general-information-about-35-usc-161

This system hadn't stopped the development of new hybrids/strains/varieties of plants, it could be argued its what made systematic and scientific development viable of better genetics in all sorts of ways.

Of course, then there's CRISPR lurking, and all this may be redundant pretty soon haha

 

[Steviestash]

They'll do like Monsanto and hire their own private army and goons to go out and threaten growers with lawsuits or violence. In fact, they'll partner with (Now Bayer/Monsanto ) as Monsanto already controls 80% of the fruit and vegetable seedbanks and companies. I've heard rumors B/M looking to buy cannabis seedbanks. Soon it will be goodbye Dutch Passion! They'll sue every small breeder they can find for not (licensing) their genetics.

True that they do it to farmers already don't buy their seeds they try to find ways to sue you and you can't buy their seeds and then reproduce them for your next crop or they sue you

 

[MasonJarOG]

 

[Tony21]

True that they do it to farmers already don't buy their seeds they try to find ways to sue you and you can't buy their seeds and then reproduce them for your next crop or they sue you

And this is wrong why?

Would you agree I was in my full rights to replicate the strains of Mephisto, Sensi seeds, Dutch Passion, any breeder, and sell the seeds or crop produced without any compensation for the development and research research costs, and then lower prices to put them out of business before taking on and ripping off the next breeder?

 

[Steviestash]

So are you saying that you shouldn't make your own seeds or clone a plant do you think that those breeders didn't use someone else's work their seeds came from using other people's strains

 

[Tony21]

So are you saying that you shouldn't make your own seeds or clone a plant do you think that those breeders didn't use someone else's work their seeds came from using other people's strains

Exactly, thats what happened and no doubt with permission. If canna was legal, the same rules and royalties would have applied as linked above.

I did say nothing stops you from making your own, as long as you don't go commercial and become a threat using someone else's hard efforts.

But you're not answering my questions lol

 

[Steviestash]

I think that if a farmer wants you to use the seeds he's bought to grow a crop and then make more seeds to grow another crop that he should be able to just like I think if you're growing commercial e cannabis but you should be able to make clones for your next crop cuz the way you're saying it it would mean that every time you grew a crop you have to buy new seeds would be no point in keeping mother plants cuz you'd be making clones stealing someone else's work

 

[Tony21]

I keep saying nothing and nobody will stop you from doing exactly what it is you want to do.
You seem to confuse private growing with a commercial operation for profit!