New Grower Hypathetical Gardener - The Perpetual cmh/led log

I couldnt resist. With such vigourous growth i cut the lowest branch from ak 47 and put it in its own lil cup with back up soil mixed with the same that it's in. No rooting hormone. Just a 2 liter bottle dome. Lets see what happens.
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Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
So i almost ordered the nectar of the gods sample pack. But i was not expecting $38.
Dont get it wrong, its a great deal for what you get. Its like 7ish quart bottles for the price of 2 and a half. I was just thinking a sampler would be closer to $10/$20 and have like 4 or 5 bottles... Enough for 1 to 2 plants. I feel like id have to dedicate a whole run or even just run a dwc to try out the line. Maybe if i get bored of soil organics ill do it.

I just ordered the sample pack this morning and it was 29 I thought that was alittle high... Considering I also got samples coming from roots organic (Aurora) for 8 bucks.

Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
So im not sure how but this tiny lil og plant is sexing already. Not super crazy since it was started on the 13th. But it sexxed before ak47 the beast. I hope this og gets bigger [emoji16] i feel like itd only support an eighth. [emoji23][emoji23]
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Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
So the water cure is coming along nicely. The one in the jar ive been changing closer to 3x a day. As water curing has to do with osmosis, you cant really change it too much. For that point i have a picture of the constant-flow water cure. Water flows into the straw and to the bottom of the jar. This is better than just dripping the tap into it because the water wont agitate the bud and itll flow up through the bud to pour out causing more "pulling" out of the bad. My time in reef tanks taught me things.

So, i took some of the 2nd water change from day 1 and added water and made a foliar spray. Much of what it being pulled out is organic compounds and nutrients that smelled like citrusy piney woody bananas. So why not... The girls loved it. So i gave it to them again this morning. The og and ak are exploding. Dom is still just doing her thing.. I may need to start another seed and just let dom go at her pace.
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Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
I've heard of the water cure before but I've never actually seen anybody do it. You think you could elaborate on that a little bit more?
So ive only read up a few places but heres the basics as i understand it. I could be very wrong.
Regular jar curing relies on micro organisms and chemical breakdown of undesired plant material. Its great. But its slow. A week ish drying. Anither 2 weeks in jars before its really noticable but a month ish is ths general agreedupon ideal.

Water curing is kinda the short cut. Instead of breaking the undesirables (salts, leftover nutes, and chlorophyll) down, they are pulled into the water. Thats why the cleaner the water the more efficient and faster one can cure. Since cleaner water can absorb more gunk. Its why the water is changed at least daily, tho im doing multiple changes a day using bottled water.
The other method was similar, keep bud submerged. But i agree with the theory that a constant slow water change would be better if possible... Fish tank logic. So i have a spare half bath in the grow room (convenient) so i set up the sink amd initially had the water running into the jar, but that hits the bud (physically knocking off triches) and ultimately only changes the very top... Solved that with the straw. Now water flows to the bottom slowly so it disperses and doesnt really produce a solid current. Causing a better mix around the bud and a steady water change. Yay.

Now once its done (the steady trickle should be done tonight) you hang it up to dry but you fast dry it. Mold is more of a threat. I read a lot about dehydrators or simply the usual drying closet but with a fan DIRECTLY on them. Quick drying is ok because once you're done with the dry... That is it. You already cured it. The cure is done in 7 to 10ish days.
Caveat: water cured bud doesnt have very much taste or smell but its smoother. This is the terps getting pulled out too. Now, this can be seen as bad. I do. But, with little scent it makes stealth smoking a lot easier. It also makes transport easier. Wish id have had this knowledge when i was a teen. [emoji23]

Since the bud is submerged, its not exposed to air temp fluxuations, humidity, etc, just keep it dark. The water temp is best at room temp (68-72f). So i use room temp bottled water and keep it in a cabinet. Uncovered. Some of the chlorophyll will evaporate off [emoji106][emoji106]

Ill try to remember to do a water cuer thread and better document once i have a method down. Just to have the info available to people.
Itd be cool to do like 1 branch/plant if it works well. Or just when im gunna need it.


Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
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So ive only read up a few places but heres the basics as i understand it. I could be very wrong.
Regular jar curing relies on micro organisms and chemical breakdown of undesired plant material. Its great. But its slow. A week ish drying. Anither 2 weeks in jars before its really noticable but a month ish is ths general agreedupon ideal.

Water curing is kinda the short cut. Instead of breaking the undesirables (salts, leftover nutes, and chlorophyll) down, they are pulled into the water. Thats why the cleaner the water the more efficient and faster one can cure. Since cleaner water can absorb more gunk. Its why the water is changed at least daily, tho im doing multiple changes a day using bottled water.
The other method was similar, keep bud submerged. But i agree with the theory that a constant slow water change would be better if possible... Fish tank logic. So i have a spare half bath in the grow room (convenient) so i set up the sink amd initially had the water running into the jar, but that hits the bud (physically knocking off triches) and ultimately only changes the very top... Solved that with the straw. Now water flows to the bottom slowly so it disperses and doesnt really produce a solid current. Causing a better mix around the bud and a steady water change. Yay.

Now once its done (the steady trickle should be done tonight) you hang it up to dry but you fast dry it. Mold is more of a threat. I read a lot about dehydrators or simply the usual drying closet but with a fan DIRECTLY on them. Quick drying is ok because once you're done with the dry... That is it. You already cured it. The cure is done in 7 to 10ish days.
Caveat: water cured bud doesnt have very much taste or smell but its smoother. This is the terps getting pulled out too. Now, this can be seen as bad. I do. But, with little scent it makes stealth smoking a lot easier. It also makes transport easier. Wish id have had this knowledge when i was a teen. [emoji23]

Since the bud is submerged, its not exposed to air temp fluxuations, humidity, etc, just keep it dark. The water temp is best at room temp (68-72f). So i use room temp bottled water and keep it in a cabinet. Uncovered. Some of the chlorophyll will evaporate off [emoji106][emoji106]

Ill try to remember to do a water cuer thread and better document once i have a method down. Just to have the info available to people.
Itd be cool to do like 1 branch/plant if it works well. Or just when im gunna need it.


Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
Thanks for the right up! I've been finding myself attracted to the highest turp strains I can find. Especially now that I'm doing more concentrates, I can find a real difference between concentrates that are up around 13-14 percent Terps as opposed to 5 or 6%. Most of the weed I grow test around 14 15% Terps so that's kind of what I like to hit in my concentrates and I've actually started adding a few extra terpenes into my bud when I smoke it just to see if I can get a better Entourage effect.
 
Thanks for the right up! I've been finding myself attracted to the highest turp strains I can find. Especially now that I'm doing more concentrates, I can find a real difference between concentrates that are up around 13-14 percent Terps as opposed to 5 or 6%. Most of the weed I grow test around 14 15% Terps so that's kind of what I like to hit in my concentrates and I've actually started adding a few extra terpenes into my bud when I smoke it just to see if I can get a better Entourage effect.
I forgot to mention that theres supposed to be a wet-dry ratio difference. The water cure is apperently slightly more potent.
The wet-dry weight of regular way is about 20-30%
The (fresh)wet to dry ratio for water cure is supposed to be 15-20%. But no loss of thc. So its a higher percentage of thc/gram. Yay!!.
I definately love my smells and flavors. But having some sneak-a-smoke for on the go could prove rather useful.

Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
Ok plants update.
Og is definately starting to flower (right on schedule)
Ak is still heavily vegging, but may transition this week?
Bdom is slowly vegging. This would be veg week 3. I was considering initially only doing a 2 week veg but she is sloooooow. Looks only a week old.
And of course ww2 is coming along. Looking to finish slowly. At least shes finishing. As i need to drop another seed later this week and im outta room.
I havent given up on the ak47 clone. Its not exactly the epitemy of health, but still green.

Finally, the water cure update,
The steady flow jar has been hung up to dry. All i smell from it is a very slight lemony scent. Its drying in front of a fan on high speed. I want it fully dry in 2 days or less. Weve got 50% water loss currently at about 12 hours(by size). I hung it in the growroom bathroom and its literally 2 feet from the fan on high with a wall behind it to help airflow across it. Im excited to see what happens.
The light is off normally for the curing duh.
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Student: At what point does the virtue of tolerance become immoral?
Guide: When the tolerance of intolerance empowers the intolerant to opress the tolerant.
 
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