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Sorry man just saw your messages! I use a wood moisture meter and if I’m tumbling the stuff I’ll try to pull it at like 14% on meter and then I’ll do a day or 2 in paper bags to finish it off! If u tumble when lil more moist then what you’d normally trim if using scissors then u won’t lose quite as much kief! U don’t lose bunches as it is but drier it is more you’ll lose!It's shocking how I found this thread just as I ordered some wire mesh and a bucket! Lol yes! I'm super excited to make mine!