Help with therapy (s)

[puggle6]

48hrs in and not feeling to bad! Vision is definitely better!

Plan is to be fussy with my personal grooming, go for a good long walk, address at least one stressful life issue per day (a bill or something I've put off), plan my eating to be relatively healthy for the day. lol

f6

 

[KkB]

48hrs in and not feeling to bad! Vision is definitely better!

Plan is to be fussy with my personal grooming, go for a good long walk, address at least one stressful life issue per day (a bill or something I've put off), plan my eating to be relatively healthy for the day. lol

f6

Ive been slowly weaning myself off of two powerful scripts, one max dose and the other very small... but hard either way... the gabapentin max dose for chronic pain from extensive nerve damage was the hardest thing i ever kicked... even when tapering down the dose over months! Very similar withdrawals that you mentioned. 3Months since i decided to taper off totally and it still fucks with me. It can take a very long time for your Brain chemistry to get right again after prolonged pharma use, and remember the warnings. Some of that shit can kill you if you quit cold turkey. Especially mental health meds. Try valerian root extract. The liquid works best, find it in the herbal supplements section. Valium is derived from this plant. High cbd helps, and try the Passion blend from doterra (or something similar). It has patchouli, lavender, frankincense, and some other essential oils. I was skeptical when my pal recommended it, but when applied to pulse points on skin, or ingested via veggie capsules, it truly lifts my spirits, promotes a sense if well being, and gives you back your "passion" for things you like. I have Major depressive disorder after a brain injury in combat. It us hard to get excited or feel happy about anything, even when life is going perfect. Really sucks being sad for no reason! The essential oils and the Mary Jane have given me my life back. Remember the herbs wont affect you like the pills, much more subtle... but combined with a smoke that you favor and a hot soak here and there listening to your fav band thinking of your happy place does wonders. Best of luck with this,i know how brutal it can be. At one point, the VA had me on 14 different meds. After a failed suicide attempt and getting locked in a medical ward with other broken soldiers, that number increased. Proud to say I dont drink anymore and only take a few necessary scripts for general maintenance now. Finally. Took 10 years. Good luck, F6

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[puggle6]

Man @KkB that is tough!

Thanks for the tips, will suss out some herbal therapies at health store, oh and I plan to drink a lot of plain water! I tend to favor suggary drinks far to much!

I'm a creature of habit but not working at the moment is a bit of a trap so I need to force a routine upon myself

Thanks KkB

 

[KkB]

Man @KkB that is tough!

Thanks for the tips, will suss out some herbal therapies at health store, oh and I plan to drink a lot of plain water! I tend to favor suggary drinks far to much!

I'm a creature of habit but not working at the moment is a bit of a trap so I need to force a routine upon myself

Thanks KkB

You have a good plan. Eat better, drink more water, pick a problem a day to address (that is HUGE). Any doc would tell you those are great ideas and can really help. Routines are crucial to keep the sense of purpose- and accomplishment!

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[KkB]

You have a good plan. Eat better, drink more water, pick a problem a day to address (that is HUGE). Any doc would tell you those are great ideas and can really help. Routines are crucial to keep the sense of purpose- and accomplishment!

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Btw, i am certainly not knocking your alcohol intake. I just overdid it. Every day. A handle of hard liquor a day - the demons are here to stay. For me at least. Took a surprisingly long time for MY dumb ass to recognize it.

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[puggle6]

Yea I smash it to hard, my dumb ass will grow out of it eventually. Not useful for depression but my real issue is anxiety. Shit just comes in at a million miles an hour.. and like I said the meds don't stop that at all when it happens.

 

[KrazyDave]

Dude I've got General Anxiety Disorder and can't actually smoke bud!! It makes that million miles an hour thought process a million times worse.

I can smoke everything else though from bho and rosin to hash and edibles.

One thing I've been looking into this week is microdosing cannabis brownies. They don't get you high but they calm your mind. I tried one yesterday as I had a bad day and it seemed to work really well.

I just felt calm and collected and could function normally instead of turning into a paranoid wreak!!

If insomnia is bad I eat a full brownie made with 8g of indica bud in a block of butter, then use the suggested amount on one of those oreo brownie mixes and cut the block into 8. Add an extra egg to make it gooey in the center!! It's proper tasty lol

Now for microdosing, I just nibbled the corner off one of these blocks. It took about half an hour or so to kick in but it doesn't really "kick in"... I just realised that I wasn't freaking out anymore and even went out for a walk around town which I just can't do on a bad day.

Other than this - I also started training in calisthenics, try to eat healthy real food and practice meditation before bed.

Always here to talk if you need someone who gets what it's like. I know how frustrating it is to tell someone who has never experienced it before, what's going on inside.

 

[KkB]

Yea I smash it to hard, my dumb ass will grow out of it eventually. Not useful for depression but my real issue is anxiety. Shit just comes in at a million miles an hour.. and like I said the meds don't stop that at all when it happens.

Anxiety is a real bitch for those unfortunate souls who have serious attacks. I know you mentioned that as the culprit in the beginning, and I think my suggestions could help, but I dont suffer from it as bad anymore, so take my words with a grain of salt. Usually crowds, fireworks, busy venues, heavy traffic, and loud noises in general get me riled up pretty bad. I just have to remove myself from the situation. You probably dont have that option if there is no apparent trigger, so I sure wish you luck in finding something that works, man.

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[KrazyDave]

My plan based on resources I have and some info.

Half tabs for 4 days then none for 4 days

Vallium if needed

DON'T DO THIS!!!

I was on low dose Meds too. They wanted to up them which scared me so I weaned myself off. Take 3/4 for a week. Then 1/2 for a week. Then 1/4 for a week. Then stop!! It's horrible while you come off them but stick with it. Dropping to half then 0 might be too fast over 4 days

 

[puggle6]

Thanks for the input guys, yea my trigger is my son's, it's probably PTSD also as they were moved away and alienated badly against me. Some of the shit my ex did would make your skin crawl...

They are adults now and maybe some kind of silver lining in the future..

Having just had a joint and a nice walk I'm actually feeling pretty good! Normally at 48hrs with no meds I'd be tripping out pretty bad and eyes strobing, hypersensitive and want to curl up and quietly die. New Doc actually listened to me and said if I want to get off them it's my choice and to half dose for 4 then 4 off, she said they don't wein down anymore, so will take a half tab if the withdrawals kick in. Don't want to take any vallium at all so not filling that prescription unless I really need to.