help! first grow

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Hers a pic of tent overall and of a photo week 2 into flowering. All seem to be clawing down a little bit. Maybe overwatering? Figured id show u guys this too. My autos doing it as well kinda.
 
did u like the chart that JM sent to ya ........u can see exactly the best range for the nutes ......thats some soild info and maybe hold off on feeding them till they can come back and give ya some more detailed info if ur ph is still off the nutes will not be used peoperly !!!!!
 
overwatering or excess nitrogen or ph out... perhaps all 3?

when you stick a finger in the pot 2 inches in from the edge and down to second knuckle... does i feel wet? or moist? or damp?

wet = bad
moist= ok
damp... not really good....

also as you approach flowering (as you appear to be) you should be drying them out a bit more... they need the cycle of wet and dry for proper growth... the best cycle is a wet/dry cycle that acts in a sine wave over a uniform period of time.

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and when you pick up the pot... very heavy? or kinda light?

and ph... do you have a soil ph meter? or water ph meter? or method of measuring?

if so... please report ph on each plant....... its direly important.... once those are straight... then we look at nutes... :toke:
 
Ok guys I wait tip pot is lighter but soil is still a little moist when inundig the top inch or so. Ill do all plants individually however the Russian rocket with the lower leaf pictures I did today. To catch you up tonspeed I had a ph in the high 4 range. Flushed and thought I was at 6.2. Today I fed the plants a little before seeing this on muddys recommendation. He assumed my ph was ok still. I did half strength fox farm big bloom and grow big. Then I ph the water to 6.5 after nutes. The runoff on the one I checked today is 6.0
 
hey Dream i hope this helps as to i see it posted alot and can be read a lil easier


Plant Name:
Soil Ph --- 6.3
Water IN 6.5 / OUT 6.0

Ok i have haerd but never got a ture answer now JM is here lets see if we can get this right

add all 3 numbers you have here 18.8 divide by 3 ......6.2666666666 so u a lil low if this is correct ....!!!!!

these arent ur true numbers now just what mine read 2 days ago ...my BIG BR is dropping she is going into flowering as well so im planning to ammend wednesday with watering ....
 
I was under impression swamp that soil ph would be 5.5

Plant: Russian rocket fuel 5
Water in: 6.5
water out: 6.0
Soil ph: 5.5

I thought my soil had to be even more acidic to bring it down .5 and that the 6.0 would be halfway between the soil ph and water going in.
 
ill let the pros answer on this .....the bottom chart up there with the green and red top bar graph is what u should look at mostly ....easier to read .....top numbers at 6.3 cal/mag has been marked red for lockout .......at 6.5 it shows ur soil is in prime uptake of every nutrient but an iron or mineral at the bottom ......if the calculation formula is correct and can be trusted u have a number of 18 divide by three u get

6.0 as PH ....if this is correct u arent that far off

i dont quite know the best solution to fixing it .3-5 so hold on to ur seat for a lil bit and see what is said
 
Yeah lets see what is said. Its a basic how to read ph question but confusing to me this first time lol. Its either 6.2 or 5.5 pending on which way is the right way. If its 5.5 then I understand the lockout.
 
i know the 3 way system is always confusing to me to but i know u gotta base by the runoff ph so i would love to know the true answer as well ....I have been going by both and i have been growing at a good pace ....I have a hanna ph pen and its always around 6.3-6.5 kinda varies with how wet the dirt is ....i added the correct amount of lime a few times around weeks 1-3 and have been pretty stable but i had a challenge too as well bro ....I nuked them with 4 summn water first watering with and i didnt meausre the water after ph down ...was stoned .....so i had to flush seedlings and transplant at 10 days its been rough bro but ya in the right hands here !!!!!!!


Better than ALLL--STATE ....
 
I was under impression swamp that soil ph would be 5.5
Plant: Russian rocket fuel 5
Water in: 6.5
water out: 6.0
Soil ph: 5.5

I thought my soil had to be even more acidic to bring it down .5 and that the 6.0 would be halfway between the soil ph and water going in.
above is correct ! :thumbs:

its not an average... its a combination of the relative ph value and their constiuents... :toke: a bit more complex...

few more examples:

plant soil measures: 5.5
water in: 7.0
water out: 6.0


plant soil measures: 6.4
water in: 6.0
water out: 6.3

plant soil measures: 6.5
water in: 6.4
water out: 6.45

plant soil measures: 7.5
water in: 5.5
water out: 6.3

these are just examples... but you get the idea :smokeit:

they sound fairly wet to me still... def let em dry out a bit more between waterings after your adjustment.... I'd recomend adjusting the soil to proper PH ASAP... as the soil moisture wont really get burned up by the plants if they are locked out of nutrient and consequently water useage... :smokeit:
 
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