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Tried a different approach to get pic's to post, sorry for the repeat of text but should make a bit more sense with pic's....
A little more about my grow methods – I do single plant auto grows, 4 gallon hydro ebb n’gro containers flooding every two hours, General Hydroponics’ expert recirculating nutrient regimen (with personal tweaks), 2”3” X 2’3” tent, 325W (actual / consumed), 325CFM centrifugal through Phresh carbon filters. As to yield expectations, my auto experience has trained me to be minimally pleased with 6oz, satisfied to smiling with 8oz, and hopeful for 11-12 oz per auto grow. With all that said, frankly, I've been a bit perplexed with Dutch Passion auto strains so far. I'd seen kind words spoken about their strains, so last year I ordered a batch of Dutch Passion auto's - Blackberry Kush, Cinderella-Jack, Auto-Mazar and Blue Auto-Mazar.
The first strain I dropped was the Blackberry Kush, looking to the Blueberry influence for pain relief for the wife's medical needs. I don't recall ever seeing seeds this tiny. I know this doesn't really reflect on viability, the colors were good / no white / premature seeds, just TINY. The first bean failed to germinate, the second one popped in three days.
Now, in my intro I mentioned one of the things I'd like to chase on AFN - do plants stretch more effectively under HID than LED lighting? Ever since I started growing under LED, I've noticed none of my auto's would stretch. It took awhile, but I think I see the pattern unfolding as I complete more grows. Ennyways, I decided to try the Blackberry Kush in my original 250W HID tent which has been so successful on past grows. True to suspicion, the plant stretched to 15" in fourteen days from transplant to HID. Encouraging. So I switched to HID / HPS Bloom, started LST, and watched the plant progress. I was REALLY excited as it matured. The entire plant's calyxes began to display a beautiful purple hue, better than any blueberry photoperiod I've ever grown. The plant pic is in my avatar, Sexy sexy sexy:
Unfortunately, as the plant matured, the calyx-es opened. I've seen this before in many sativa dominant strains, and sometimes (not always) it's hurt yield. This time, it hurt. A LOT. When harvested and cured, the buds dried way too fast (two days!!!), were see-through wispy, and lost all aroma, never to return even after a month's cure. The high was great, but the taste degraded to remind me of Mexican brick. Final yield, 104g / 3.7oz.
Looking past the disappointment, this plant was the most beautiful I've grown. So I’m hoping someone can show me this was a runt or a poor pheno:
Soooo, after the Blackberry Kush, I decided to try the Cinderella-99 / Jack Herer cross. The genetics for this strain had me drooling; C-99 has been a perennial favorite of mine since forever. I LOVE the trippy, psychedelic head high, right up there with G-13. And Jack Herer? can't get any better than that for relaxation / pain relief. So I was hopeful the C99 influence would keep the Jack influence "off the couch"
This one went under my new Mars Pro Cree-128 LED (325W actual, kill-a-watt verified).
Back to the stretch theory, NONE under the LED. The plant stayed quite compact, and even with some aggressive LST to try to open it up, it never spread out. But yield was good, an even 96g/7oz in 78 days. Smoke quality and taste, all excellent. This one was a winner.
Only other observation, I've never seen a plant with more dense / heavy buds by volume. 7oz cured took up about 4-5oz volume in my cure containers. If only some of this could have gone to the Blackberry Kush!!
But CJ was a pretty girl -
In the meantime I’ve launched into a third strain from Dutch Passion; Blue Auto Mazar. I’ve never seen a more sativa dominant strain, it looks like a perfect little Christmas tree. And even after bending her over and tying her up (lots of gurls like that ), the side branches are not growing, nothing is catching up. I’m afraid it’s going to be a very poor yielder as well. At 40 days in it’s healthy and pretty as she can be. She’s just not filling out, no stretch or spread. Is this my LED no-stretch theory, or other bad result?
Sooooo, that’s my experience so far with Dutch Passion. I have to decide if my yield problems have been pheno dependent, runts, or are true to the strains of this breeder. Keeping an open mind and hoping, so I’ll welcome any info on conflicting results from other growers.
By the way, I don’t do traditional grow threads. It’s been my experience that the most meaningful way to do this is to document a grow while completing it, then publish the results all at once. So if someone wants to see my results, the are all in one place and they don’t have to wade through 20 pages of posts to get the particulars. I’ve got some winners to share, and a couple of losers to scare you away from. I’ll be launching into that after my vacation in mid March. In the meantime, I’ll be looking for all your results.
Later, Boyz ‘n Girls!
A little more about my grow methods – I do single plant auto grows, 4 gallon hydro ebb n’gro containers flooding every two hours, General Hydroponics’ expert recirculating nutrient regimen (with personal tweaks), 2”3” X 2’3” tent, 325W (actual / consumed), 325CFM centrifugal through Phresh carbon filters. As to yield expectations, my auto experience has trained me to be minimally pleased with 6oz, satisfied to smiling with 8oz, and hopeful for 11-12 oz per auto grow. With all that said, frankly, I've been a bit perplexed with Dutch Passion auto strains so far. I'd seen kind words spoken about their strains, so last year I ordered a batch of Dutch Passion auto's - Blackberry Kush, Cinderella-Jack, Auto-Mazar and Blue Auto-Mazar.
The first strain I dropped was the Blackberry Kush, looking to the Blueberry influence for pain relief for the wife's medical needs. I don't recall ever seeing seeds this tiny. I know this doesn't really reflect on viability, the colors were good / no white / premature seeds, just TINY. The first bean failed to germinate, the second one popped in three days.
Now, in my intro I mentioned one of the things I'd like to chase on AFN - do plants stretch more effectively under HID than LED lighting? Ever since I started growing under LED, I've noticed none of my auto's would stretch. It took awhile, but I think I see the pattern unfolding as I complete more grows. Ennyways, I decided to try the Blackberry Kush in my original 250W HID tent which has been so successful on past grows. True to suspicion, the plant stretched to 15" in fourteen days from transplant to HID. Encouraging. So I switched to HID / HPS Bloom, started LST, and watched the plant progress. I was REALLY excited as it matured. The entire plant's calyxes began to display a beautiful purple hue, better than any blueberry photoperiod I've ever grown. The plant pic is in my avatar, Sexy sexy sexy:
Unfortunately, as the plant matured, the calyx-es opened. I've seen this before in many sativa dominant strains, and sometimes (not always) it's hurt yield. This time, it hurt. A LOT. When harvested and cured, the buds dried way too fast (two days!!!), were see-through wispy, and lost all aroma, never to return even after a month's cure. The high was great, but the taste degraded to remind me of Mexican brick. Final yield, 104g / 3.7oz.
Looking past the disappointment, this plant was the most beautiful I've grown. So I’m hoping someone can show me this was a runt or a poor pheno:
Soooo, after the Blackberry Kush, I decided to try the Cinderella-99 / Jack Herer cross. The genetics for this strain had me drooling; C-99 has been a perennial favorite of mine since forever. I LOVE the trippy, psychedelic head high, right up there with G-13. And Jack Herer? can't get any better than that for relaxation / pain relief. So I was hopeful the C99 influence would keep the Jack influence "off the couch"
This one went under my new Mars Pro Cree-128 LED (325W actual, kill-a-watt verified).
Back to the stretch theory, NONE under the LED. The plant stayed quite compact, and even with some aggressive LST to try to open it up, it never spread out. But yield was good, an even 96g/7oz in 78 days. Smoke quality and taste, all excellent. This one was a winner.
Only other observation, I've never seen a plant with more dense / heavy buds by volume. 7oz cured took up about 4-5oz volume in my cure containers. If only some of this could have gone to the Blackberry Kush!!
In the meantime I’ve launched into a third strain from Dutch Passion; Blue Auto Mazar. I’ve never seen a more sativa dominant strain, it looks like a perfect little Christmas tree. And even after bending her over and tying her up (lots of gurls like that ), the side branches are not growing, nothing is catching up. I’m afraid it’s going to be a very poor yielder as well. At 40 days in it’s healthy and pretty as she can be. She’s just not filling out, no stretch or spread. Is this my LED no-stretch theory, or other bad result?
Sooooo, that’s my experience so far with Dutch Passion. I have to decide if my yield problems have been pheno dependent, runts, or are true to the strains of this breeder. Keeping an open mind and hoping, so I’ll welcome any info on conflicting results from other growers.
By the way, I don’t do traditional grow threads. It’s been my experience that the most meaningful way to do this is to document a grow while completing it, then publish the results all at once. So if someone wants to see my results, the are all in one place and they don’t have to wade through 20 pages of posts to get the particulars. I’ve got some winners to share, and a couple of losers to scare you away from. I’ll be launching into that after my vacation in mid March. In the meantime, I’ll be looking for all your results.
Later, Boyz ‘n Girls!
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You should check out TH Seeds' Auto Original Bubblegum. This beauty almost filled my 2'3" square tent, but with LST it never went past 10" above the ebb n'Gro pot. Rock hard frosty buds, and my highest single-plant yielder ever at 11.76oz. :
Fark mate you grow some nice buds and welcome to the fam this place is the bomb for help
