RocBud Grape Slurri Auto (Slurricane x Grape Rolex Auto)

[automan2]

OF is widely used (why, I have no idea) but is well known for being too hot for autos. Kinda like miracle grow...can do ok if watered properly but most new growers are too impatient to wait on things...and pushing the rope begins.....
Your plants will try to live but are dependent on LESS than what you're doing....
Similar problems are rampant among new growers using OF....or actually anything else....
Thanks for posting for others to discern solutions for themselves.

 

[PurpleTerps]

Thx for the comment. That's upsetting. I know these would look better with a better medium.

 

[automan2]

Thx for the comment. That's upsetting. I know these would look better with a better medium.

Hey man, just don't give up. Takes a while to figure out what actually works but look at all the stuff that doesn't too. We all have gone through the try this, try that and our closets are full of failures.
While this forum is a godsend for some, it has a downside of making a new grower try too much and never turn on the patience tool ...a most useful resource that is last to be employed.
When I started, there were no forums and very little info so guess how lessons were learned? Yep...burned shit up all the time and not the kinda of burning sought after.
Over the years, I've become more and more conservative...and my plants have responded in health and juicy fruit.
Yes a more forgiving medium would be of benefit to your efforts. Years ago, I settled on bio bizz light mix which is the simplest medium I've ever used...just control what goes in and it does its share. Again, keeping it simple is the best...but we all probably keep a guinea pig handy to test our ideas....

 

[PurpleTerps]

You're right. It's just I'm growing for personal medicine so it's hard to see this happen when I need it the most. doing really bad financially and mentally. I hoped investing in a solid and vetted low quantity genetic would result in a somewhat stable plant that can expresses conditions from both of its' parent crosses.

Not sure yet if I'll pull the plug on these two and make better space of in my tent

 

[Waira]

I see Ocean Forest being used as one of, if not the most common soils in this field. I think it is a combination of unstable genetics and my environment.

soils are a dubious dice-roll, trust me! A few get OK bags (local sourcing I suspect), but many don't and get shitty, off pH, poorly cooked shwag! I have tested that soil many times, badly acidic often as not, and the quality in general is crap... They were once good, but not any more,... they are cheap, and that's about it! My local horticultural supply store stopped carrying it because of this and bug problems, forget the sales loss, the hassles were no longer worth it...
Roots Organic original is a decent alternative, heard the Dr Earth is OK too (can't confirm that though)... I use Sanctuary Soils Empire Builder or Victory blend, but that's pretty much CA only I think?
OF is hot, too much for some cultivar seedlings, OK with others,... A lot of variability with this sensitivity in auto's these days! The EWC is OK up to a point (more is not better, affects other important characteristics of the soil); alfalfa meal is N heavy, and many spike it too hot...
In any case, this is not the fault or issue with the genetics, aside from the usual variable tolerances for soil richness in auto, photo's too BTW....
Lights are too close as well, magnifying the problem. Seedlings want less intense light, usually the light company offers some recommended distances for growth stages; seedlings typically 18-24"..... raise those up some..
A good trick for planting direct into final pots: get a smaller pot, or say a 32oz cup, 1L at most and place it in the pot while filling it up, leaving the top level with the soil level; fill around it, and remove-- voila'! A perfect pocket to put milder starter soil in... Have a look in the Tutorial section, there's a no trauma transplant method I made in there showing what i mean, even if you aren't doing that-

 

[PurpleTerps]

soils are a dubious dice-roll, trust me! A few get OK bags (local sourcing I suspect), but many don't and get shitty, off pH, poorly cooked shwag! I have tested that soil many times, badly acidic often as not, and the quality in general is crap... They were once good, but not any more,... they are cheap, and that's about it! My local horticultural supply store stopped carrying it because of this and bug problems, forget the sales loss, the hassles were no longer worth it...
Roots Organic original is a decent alternative, heard the Dr Earth is OK too (can't confirm that though)... I use Sanctuary Soils Empire Builder or Victory blend, but that's pretty much CA only I think?
OF is hot, too much for some cultivar seedlings, OK with others,... A lot of variability with this sensitivity in auto's these days! The EWC is OK up to a point (more is not better, affects other important characteristics of the soil); alfalfa meal is N heavy, and many spike it too hot...
In any case, this is not the fault or issue with the genetics, aside from the usual variable tolerances for soil richness in auto, photo's too BTW....

Thank you for the heads up on . Will be avoiding from now on. Definitely not happy with the amount of woodchips & perlite. Was expecting a decent soil with aged products that would be good to kickstart a seedling.

alfalfa meal is N heavy, and many spike it too hot...

Interesting because I don't see any immediate signs of N tox, green has been a healthy shade of green, and it's not clawing more-so is it curling inwards.

In any case, this is not the fault or issue with the genetics, aside from the usual variable

I am hesitant you are saying this with 100% certainty, friend. Like another user noted, there have been no pictures of this strain from Roc, or anyone except veg so we don't know how vigorous it would be even in a perfect environment.

Lights are too close as well, magnifying the problem. Seedlings want less intense light

Let's agree to disagree. They are only 2 sub-$100 QB's from amazon about a foot away. I have plenty of circulation and humidity so I would have expected dry cracking leaves to be the exact opposite thing to happen. These girls are also exhibiting no immediate signs of usual heat stress (cupping, curling of edges of the leaf blades.

A good trick for planting direct into final pots: get a smaller pot, or say a 32oz cup, 1L at most and place it in the pot while filling it up, leaving the top level with the soil level; fill around it, and remove-- voila'! A perfect pocket to put milder starter soil in... Have a look in the Tutorial section, there's a no trauma transplant method I made in there showing what i mean, even if you aren't doing that-

Hey, this is actually very smart! I think I just pictured it in my head with the solo cup being cut and just being able to pull it out of the larger pot with out much disturbance. I may be giving this a shot.

 

[Silver]

@PurpleTerps Would you mind sharing a picture of the whole plant without the Blurple lighting on them?

 

[PurpleTerps]

 

[Silver]

I'd have to go with a bad batch of soil, these girls are not happy at all!

Do you have access to another brand?..perhaps something like Biobizz Light mix and try transplanting them, that's what I would do for sure.

 

[PurpleTerps]

Update 9/19/20 - Decided to put the last two Grape Slurri girls out of their misery to restart for better things in my tent. Also sprouted and planted Roc's auto mix.

Medium - Mother Earth Groundswell Soil amended with Real Grower's Recharge microbials, earthworm castings, alfalfa meal

Lights - 235 true watts (Mars Hydro and Maxsisun LEDs) running 22 hours on, 2 off

Nutrients - Mostly organically amended. Will be adding small amounts of Advanced Nutrients G/M/B throughout in very diluted amounts as needed. General Hydroponics Armor Si