Mephisto Genetics Germination and Germ Test with Mitch

[mephisto]

Hey guys,

It seems everyone has their own way of germinating, but I just thought I'd show you simply how we always germinate our seeds,
and at the same time make a germination test of some strains.

I guess it's one of those personal things, where if you have success one way, you keep doing it... creatures of habbit

Some people like to soak for some time, then plant,

Others like to plant direct,

But for me, I know I get impatient and start poking around in the soil and that's never helpful.

So usually, for growing large amounts, I know the number of pots/plants I want to start in a given space, If it's a large amount then I'll put in to germinate more than I need (I know that's a luxury to have.. but we are a seed co. at the end of the day )

This is more just to have germinated seeds at the same rate when planting, it then means they'll all sprout the same day or very close to, and that keeps things more consistent. After all, 3 days difference when it comes to autos, we know can be a lot.

So, one person messaged me to say they'd had a little trouble germinating chemdogging, but hadn't seen anyone else say they were having trouble. We haven't had any trouble either but I thought i'd do a test just incase.

I took 100 out of the bag, not specially picked, just the first out of the bag at random.

Chemdogging fem x 100

So, I take my beans, put them on toilet paper. I use 6 sheets, and fold over once to halve it, then again to halve that. This provides a nice thickness.

I did the same with 100 fantasmo and 50 walter whites

I write on a slip of paper with permanent marker the strain name, Then I take a spray bottle of tap water, and spray liberally until the paper is wet through.

Fold again, leaving a bit of the paper out (helps to re-open) and spray again.

At this point placing them in a dvd case.

Then I wrap in a spare piece of clothing, t-shirt, jumper, whatever is to hand, and place somewhere warm.

Our house is NOT warm at the moment, and all active g-rooms are on 12/12. Normally if I'm running auto's I'll just place the package somewhere shaded in a grow area that's nice and warm.

But I put on our router as it's on 24 hours and gets pretty warm.

............

After 72 hours the chemdogging looked like this:

98/100 with long tails. The remaining two had cracked, one looked like it would definitely germ, the other I wasn't sure. But very happy at 98% to be honest.

After the same 72 hours, I had 52/100 fantasmo, and 36/50 walter white.
It could be that these seeds are still a little fresh, or could be the not typically ideal temperatures going on here.

But I took the remaining 48 fantasmo, and 14 walter whites, put them onto fresh toilet tissue (repeating above fold, spray method)
And tonight less than 24 hours later, another 30 fantasmo had popped, and another 6 walter white.

So i'm hopeful that they will all pop, or 95% at least.

I've had seeds in the past, I've had to pre-crack, or scuff or bla bla bla, and really I don't want to have to expect our customers to go through any of that.

Ok I'm not super stoked at the time taken for these to pop, but it goes to show that you shouldn't write off seeds too soon.
I'll report back tomorrow night, with more results.

cheers mitch!

 

[MikeyB420]

Hey guys,

It seems everyone has their own way of germinating, but I just thought I'd show you simply how we always germinate our seeds,
and at the same time make a germination test of some strains.

I guess it's one of those personal things, where if you have success one way, you keep doing it... creatures of habbit

Some people like to soak for some time, then plant,

Others like to plant direct,

But for me, I know I get impatient and start poking around in the soil and that's never helpful.

So usually, for growing large amounts, I know the number of pots/plants I want to start in a given space, If it's a large amount then I'll put in to germinate more than I need (I know that's a luxury to have.. but we are a seed co. at the end of the day )

This is more just to have germinated seeds at the same rate when planting, it then means they'll all sprout the same day or very close to, and that keeps things more consistent. After all, 3 days difference when it comes to autos, we know can be a lot.

So, one person messaged me to say they'd had a little trouble germinating chemdogging, but hadn't seen anyone else say they were having trouble. We haven't had any trouble either but I thought i'd do a test just incase.

I took 100 out of the bag, not specially picked, just the first out of the bag at random.

Chemdogging fem x 100

So, I take my beans, put them on toilet paper. I use 6 sheets, and fold over once to halve it, then again to halve that. This provides a nice thickness.

I did the same with 100 fantasmo and 50 walter whites

I write on a slip of paper with permanent marker the strain name, Then I take a spray bottle of tap water, and spray liberally until the paper is wet through.

Fold again, leaving a bit of the paper out (helps to re-open) and spray again.

At this point placing them in a dvd case.

Then I wrap in a spare piece of clothing, t-shirt, jumper, whatever is to hand, and place somewhere warm.

Our house is NOT warm at the moment, and all active g-rooms are on 12/12. Normally if I'm running auto's I'll just place the package somewhere shaded in a grow area that's nice and warm.

But I put on our router as it's on 24 hours and gets pretty warm.

............

After 72 hours the chemdogging looked like this:

98/100 with long tails. The remaining two had cracked, one looked like it would definitely germ, the other I wasn't sure. But very happy at 98% to be honest.

After the same 72 hours, I had 52/100 fantasmo, and 36/50 walter white.
It could be that these seeds are still a little fresh, or could be the not typically ideal temperatures going on here.

But I took the remaining 48 fantasmo, and 14 walter whites, put them onto fresh toilet tissue (repeating above fold, spray method)
And tonight less than 24 hours later, another 30 fantasmo had popped, and another 6 walter white.

So i'm hopeful that they will all pop, or 95% at least.

I've had seeds in the past, I've had to pre-crack, or scuff or bla bla bla, and really I don't want to have to expect our customers to go through any of that.

Ok I'm not super stoked at the time taken for these to pop, but it goes to show that you shouldn't write off seeds too soon.
I'll report back tomorrow night, with more results.

cheers mitch!

"kudos"



Peace and Love

MB.

 

[thetreeman]

I think germination might be increased by doing a freeze/thaw cycle before germinating them, especially for 'young' seeds. Apple seeds wont germinate at all without a cold period first, Im sure it wouldnt hurt.

 

[mephisto]

It may quicken it, but it increases naturally with a little time without the need to freeze/thaw, these are around 4 weeks from de-seeding, dried for a few days, and then chilled in the fridge since, whereas the chemdogging were made during the summer.
cheers!

 

[organic]

Do you find you get many pop with the seeds still attached?

i can only imagine what a 100 tiny little plants look like

 

[mephisto]

Do you find you get many pop with the seeds still attached?

i can only imagine what a 100 tiny little plants look like

It's a shame but these were never destined to be planted, just for quality control
So we had a chemdogging topped salad for dinner.

It happens from time to time, not too common really.
If you look to the top left of the picture you'll see one that is furthest ahead has shed it's shell in the paper towel already.

CHeers mitch

 

[medic grower]

Awesome Germintation Ratio at the Chemdoggin. And indeed Mitch i did recon on my Vanilla Pines Proect that the Seeds which were the Freshest did take longer or had a bader Germ Ratio. Its nice to see You checking Things out if some Customers arent happy or have some Problems. Shows that You care for the Strains and run that Buisness with Passion.

 

[thetreeman]

It's a shame but these were never destined to be planted, just for quality control
So we had a chemdogging topped salad for dinner.
CHeers mitch

Ive never had a $1000 salad before, how did it taste? :crap:

 

[mephisto]

Awesome Germintation Ratio at the Chemdoggin. And indeed Mitch i did recon on my Vanilla Pines Proect that the Seeds which were the Freshest did take longer or had a bader Germ Ratio. Its nice to see You checking Things out if some Customers arent happy or have some Problems. Shows that You care for the Strains and run that Buisness with Passion.

well sure dude, we only want to send out viable seeds.
of course we can't guarantee 100% germ but as close to should be possible for our customers if they treat them appropriately.
its also just a measure to cover ourselves.
we always do it like this, I just wanted to share it this time around

Ive never had a $1000 salad before, how did it taste? :crap:

pretty good! I'm usually admittedly a bit of a salad dodger, Would have preferred to plant them obviously

 

[ThatKracker]

Well I just got home from work and before I could even kick my shoes off I ran straight to my beans. All 20 sour cracks popped. 100% gentlemen. Just put them in the dirt, I guess I should start a damn journal....