Flushing: The Myth that won't Die

[13Peace]

After reading more comments, yes there is a lot of BS out there...
I think all u can do is experiment using same seeds purchased or produced by u & compare end results ?!?!
Lab test-but exp
Kief yields
Smoke results
Avg Yld Weight
Etc

 

[pop22]

Good information is always appreciated! thank you!

I am super limited in my knowledge as well, and am also very new to growing, but I have been trying to do as much research as I can! Here is what I have found...

As far as I understand, the sugars are not meant to feed the plant, rather feed the microbes in the soil. Similar with aminos, they allow the plant to uptake more nutrients through the roots among other things. I found some videos from Harley Smith who talks about this kind of stuff, but using the RAW nutrient line (I feel it would be applicable to any nutrient line using the same sort of things, like nectar).

Sugars for plant feeding (especially during the end of flowering):


Amino acids for increasing the uptake of nutrients:


I would like to believe he is referencing actual scientific studies here, but I wouldn't know where to find them or probably even how to properly interpret them.

The Unofficial NFTG Bible and the OCGFam videos on youtube also mention essentially the same things as well.

 

[pop22]

I understand feeding the soil in an organic grow. However the additive in question presents no science to support their claim, and without that proof, then the claims are in question.

UV enhancement however has also newer studies supporting it's value, so it's not in question. I'm not a fan of it in home grows however because it is dangerous, to your eyes especially, and people in general tend to be careless with such things.

I’d agree, there is science behind it...
like u I’ve been trying to do different techniques based on science & proof.
((Your plant looks great))

Blackstrap Molasses (sugars etc.) several times, but definitely “after” flush 2 1/2 tsp/gal.
& most important is utilizing “UVB” bulbs 10-12 W actual power per sq ft . (I’m a auto grower, so I’ll apply uvb on day 55 through day 90 or so, & keep going till i see 20-50 % amber Trics... this is personal preference for me)
My last grow of Tangiematic had with no doubt (agreed by several friends of dried bud inspection) a substantially larger Trichome count, with very intense stone).
A Med. grower in Montana I know
convinced me on UVB bulbs. I had already read up on several scientific articles on UVB, so I didn’t need much convincing !
The Molasses idea came from a well known
grow author, just can’t recall the name?
Regardless, Dry sift of the uvb applied Buds returned 27% Yld
And Dry sift of previously grown NO
UVB Buds returned ~22% Yld
same seeds same strain same supplier same type
same 160u micron filter, both broken up using same kitchen nut grinder, both Freezer frozen...& same gram scale. An increase of ~20%
This is about what UVB research concludes...
What your doing is great... trying to up
(grow & compare, switch back & forth)

Article
How to use plant hormones in cannabis cultivation

Article:
Interesting article from a biologist
Plant Stress: Senescence Simplified
Does stressing plants out to make them stronger make sense in the long run? Matt Geschke argues that the proof is in the harvest.
Matt Geschke


Good article:
Horticulture • TechniquesCannabis Under Stress Produces More THC

Article:
April 3, 2020
High times magazine:
“Evidence shows that cannabinoids, specifically THC, may play an active role in defending the cannabis plant against UVB rays, and strains native to areas (best Hash comes from mountain areas) with high levels of ambient UVB radiation show higher levels of Δ 9THC.”


Article:
Study done many years a go 80s

Pate (1983) reported that cannabis exposed to high levels of UV-B resulted in little or no increase in cannabidiol (CBD) but high levels of A'-tetrahydrocannabinol (Ay-THC), while the opposite was true for low UV-B exposure. Their research showed cannabis is
physiologically and morphologically insensitive to UV-B radiation during vegetative growth and should not be applied until two weeks before harvest.)

I broke the rules, applied uvb for 35 days & 18/6...18 hrs day!!! & used 6x more than what some articles mention??? ((Almost forgot I used only
Red LED light last 20 days—
day 90 thru 110 harvest, yes all Auto!View attachment 1312084


Make yourself one of these Hash Temple balls someday, if u have not already ?

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[13Peace]

This is why I like these threads...
For instance UVB & eyes possibly getting damaged true ( I keep sun glasses handy or turn them off diff plug in)...
Just reading these threads today I’ve learned more, because it makes me want to research, but more important asking questions I’d not thought of...
For instance I found other ways to produce seeds today not using
Colloidal Silver etc...from reading an earlier post

 

[F.N.]

It is not in the flushing that brings out the best it is the curing that brings out the best in Taste and over all enjoyment of the herb. That is my findings in slowly cutting back my days of straight water which was 8 to 10 day of not flushing per say but I notice no difference in the burn quality or taste as I went down to three days of straight water and zero difference and now I do not flush at all anymore there is no need.

 

[Sheriffatman]

So after reading all that. Do I flush ????? Lmao

 

[pop22]

Simple answer..................... NO! :smoking:

So after reading all that. Do I flush ????? Lmao

 

[Sheriffatman]

Simple answer..................... NO! :smoking:

Was only joking, on my first grow now, and don’t think i will be flushing. Sorry canna no flush sale for me. Lol

 

[pop22]

You said the magic words, It's all in the cure!

It is not in the flushing that brings out the best it is the curing that brings out the best in Taste and over all enjoyment of the herb. That is my findings in slowly cutting back my days of straight water which was 8 to 10 day of not flushing per say but I notice no difference in the burn quality or taste as I went down to three days of straight water and zero difference and now I do not flush at all anymore there is no need.

 

[WildBill]

So after reading all that. Do I flush ????? Lmao

Only your toilet!