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[Boognelson87]

@AutoLowRyder thanks what is 2no and 3no? And how is it used?

 

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They last around 1-2 harvests, that's active jar life of 200 days... so are reusable for 2 cures

They tend to take on water/moisture, if bud is above 62%RH when you jar it for the de-carb..... but take time to empart, dispatch the moisture, if you jar an over dryed bud, it will re=hydrate it, (Handy!).......

Once your hygrometer, on the bud sample RH check, locked down in the jar, for just an hour, will give you the bud RH...... Once your hygrometer says 60 or as low as 55%RH............ on your sample test, you can then lock down the jar with 2no in 1 500ml kilner, or 3no in a 950ml kilner........... and leave them in the jar, for cure, and post cure............. as the Boveda pack will maintain the perfect smoking humidity, so no harsh throat, smooth smoking, if you smoke blunt, or with tobaco............. it will be very smoothe to smoke.

If you have flushed the plants, during the last 10 days of the grow, with pure water RO, or just zero nute water you have been using to feed............. this dramatically reduces the chems in the flowers, pre harvest, therefore, reduces harshness on combustion................ a very smoothe smokeing experience.

I use a vape pen, which i put 1ml of my own BHO extraction, made into "Full Melt" BHO vape juice at a ratio of 1g BHO to 2ml of wax liquidizer PEG400, like EJMix yea.................. the BHO vape liquid is 5 times stronger than any combustion or blunt............... as it is a half oz of green, reduced to 3.8g of pure trichome extract, made up to the 2:1 ratio, so 4 pulls on the vape pen is a king skin blunt, taken in, in 4 pulls of a vape...... it is easy to get a puff hangover !!!............. 8 pulls dose me all evening !! and no nicotine. I also use a zero mg nicotine normal Vg/Pg vape, post canna vape pen use............ ALR

Are you using VG and PG to mix?

 

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If you have flushed the plants, during the last 10 days of the grow, with pure water RO, or just zero nute water you have been using to feed............. this dramatically reduces the chems in the flowers,

To each their own, but Scientists(botanists) say flushing cannot reduce the chems in the flower.

 

[AutoLowRyder]

thanks what is 2no and 3no?

Thats "2no" 62% RH Boveda humidity regulator packs in a 500ml kilner jar, used for curing.
And "3no" 62% RH Boveda humidity regulator packs in a 950ml kilner jar, used for curing

Are you using VG and PG to mix?

Neither, as Vg & Pg are not solvents of resin (Trichomes). PEG 400 (polyethylene glycol 400) is a low-molecular-weight grade of polyethylene glycol. It is a clear, colorless, viscous liquid. Due in part to its low toxicity, PEG 400 is widely used in a variety of pharmaceutical formulations. PEG 400 is soluble in water, aromatic hydrocarbons, and is slightly soluble in aliphatic hydrocarbons. Aromatic hydrocarbons = terpens...

Peg400 (polyethylene glycol 400) is in the EJMix, which a lot of people use to dissolve's / liquidizes the BHO extract in it for vaping........ you put 2g of BHO to 4ml of PEG400 = 1:2 ratio, put in a shot glass, put it in a microwave for 7 secs @800w, warm it, stir it, your ready to vape.........

The issue arises with PEG400 though, when you vape it, and the "Ceramic" vape pen coil 3.8w, exceeds 60c, in heavy use (Friday Nights!).............. it can re-combine into "Formaldehyde", which is partially toxic, as it contains alcohol !!.........

So a purer method, is to use a solvent which is as good at disolving BHO as PEG400, but has no issues at all..... that is medium chain triglyceride MCT's an 8 carbon veg oil............. google MCT C8 oil. The key is here it is better, but a lot cheaper........ MJMix is 1 quid a ml !!......... MCT C8 BHO liquidizer is 8 quid for 50mls !!............ and just as pure............... vegans call it "Brain Juice" . ALR

 

[AutoLowRyder]

Scientists(botanists) say flushing cannot reduce the chems in the flower

The same route they got in there is the same rout they come out, when using RO water (Reverse Osmosis Flushing).......... RO attracts the salts built up in the root matrix and the buds, as RO water has no salt at all....... the mobile ellements macro nutrients,

nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), magnesium (Mg), carbon (C), oxygen(O), hydrogen (H) are all mobile nutrients, that is to say, they can be relocated in the plant, by the plant.....

“law of minimum” or “Liebig's law” (that states that plant growth is controlled not by the total amount of resources available, but by the scarcest resource), has been replaced by several mathematical approaches that use different models in order to take the interactions between the individual nutrients into account. The latest developments in this field are based on the fact that the nutrient elements (and compounds) do not act independently from each other, because there may be direct chemical interactions between them or they may influence each other’s uptake, translocation, and biological action via a number of mechanisms.

Now if a nutrient can be moved, it can be moved out the same way it got in............ through the root matrix, the law of counter current diffusion, states, a larger concentration will move to a lower concentration by diffusion and osmosis........... so reverse osmosis water (Pure Zero Salt) water will pull out any resident, un-used mobile nutrients in the flowers by diffusion, of a higher concentration of nute to a lower one......... effectivly detoxing the plant................ ive tried both. The terps are mental high in an RO flushed plant, but not so in a full chem bud.......... also a full chem bud is much harsher on the throat if smoked when over dryed...... ALR

 

[Boognelson87]

That is true. @AutoLowRyder I work for a soil testing lab. We do a project every summer for the universities. It's called "N watch". We takr samples up to 24 inches in fields to follow the anhydrous or nitrogen and other free moving elements. However, it isn't going down into the ground. Alot are being washed in into ditches and creeks and washing into the gulf of mexico..look it up we are causing this place in the ocean to be unliveable known as the deadzone. Our project we have until 2025 to help resolve the Issue or the federal government comes in and controls the fertilizer amounts to be applied. I'll be the first to say we aren't going to reach our goal. It's only getting worse. So as far as the elements being able to move it does happen. However, we do monthly checks and even after a month or 2 of rain in some places there still remains nitrogen and other elements. So i find it hard to believe that a quick flush actually gets rid of all the chemicals. Maybe it's different than what I do or chemicals in general but in my line of work and what I see. The best thing I can say is go organic. Hydro may be different but is it worth the risk? Also, I keep looking up 2no and 3no boveda and I'm only seeing the boveda. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you or im having a dumb moment with this But im just not following you. Maybe dumb it down for me lol. Sorry

 

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The same route they got in there is the same rout they come out, when using RO water (Reverse Osmosis Flushing).......... RO attracts the salts built up in the root matrix and the buds, as RO water has no salt at all....... the mobile ellements macro nutrients,

nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), magnesium (Mg), carbon (C), oxygen(O), hydrogen (H) are all mobile nutrients, that is to say, they can be relocated in the plant, by the plant.....

“law of minimum” or “Liebig's law” (that states that plant growth is controlled not by the total amount of resources available, but by the scarcest resource), has been replaced by several mathematical approaches that use different models in order to take the interactions between the individual nutrients into account. The latest developments in this field are based on the fact that the nutrient elements (and compounds) do not act independently from each other, because there may be direct chemical interactions between them or they may influence each other’s uptake, translocation, and biological action via a number of mechanisms.

Now if a nutrient can be moved, it can be moved out the same way it got in............ through the root matrix, the law of counter current diffusion, states, a larger concentration will move to a lower concentration by diffusion and osmosis........... so reverse osmosis water (Pure Zero Salt) water will pull out any resident, un-used mobile nutrients in the flowers by diffusion, of a higher concentration of nute to a lower one......... effectivly detoxing the plant................ ive tried both. The terps are mental high in an RO flushed plant, but not so in a full chem bud.......... also a full chem bud is much harsher on the throat if smoked when over dryed...... ALR

Flushing, or over watering, won't take nutrients from the buds unless it's very extreme. It will take nutrients from the leaves and move them to the buds in the plants attempt to complete it's life cycle and reproduce before it dies. That's why my over watered plant has all yellow and dying leaves but the buds are healthy with green healthy sugar leaves. When I over watered, the plant could not uptake nutrients and moved nutrients from the leaves to the buds.

Stop feeding and only feed water(starve the plant) and the plant will do the same. It will move the nutrients from the leaves to the buds. If your buds are not yellow and dying, the nutrients are still in them and you need to starve the plant more to get them out.

The plants sole purpose is to reproduce and it will take all the nutrients in the plant and move them to the flowers if starved or over watered.

But rather than debate it further here, it's been discussed in another thread.

Flushing: The Myth that won't Die

And interested folks can listen to a phd botanist discuss flushing for harvest. The whole pod cast is good but the part about flushing begins around 1:12:00. In it, she cites a Canadian study that determined that there are the same amount of nutrient elements in the flower of flushed plants vs not flushed plants.

 

[MordecaiAlliVanAllenOshea]

I heard most of that Podcast and it is excellent information all around. Need to take the time to listen to all of those as a matter of fact, as I have only chipped a few off the list thus far. And hearing that much science is about enough to want to go back to college!

Flushing, or over watering, won't take nutrients from the buds unless it's very extreme. It's take nutrients from the leaves and move them to the buds in the plants attempt to complete it's life cycle and reproduce before it dies. That's why my over watered plant has all yellow and dying leaves but the buds are healthy with green healthy sugar leaves. When I over watered, the plant could not uptake nutrients and moved nutrients from the leaves to the buds.

Stop feeding and only feed water(starve the plant) and the plant will do the same. It will move the nutrients from the leaves to the buds. If your buds are not yellow and dying, the nutrients are still in them and you need to starve the plant more to get them out.

The plants sole purpose is to reproduce and it will take all the nutrients in the plant and move them to the flowers if starved or over watered.

But rather than debate it further here, it's been discussed in another thread.

Flushing: The Myth that won't Die

And interested folks can listen to a phd botanist discuss flushing for harvest. The whole pod cast is good but the part about flushing begins around 1:12:00

 

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Also, I keep looking up 2no and 3no boveda and I'm only seeing the boveda.

I believe the 2no([HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]) and 3no([HASHTAG]#3[/HASHTAG]) are sizes of boveda packets. Different sizes for different size jars. But, I'm not sure.

 

[Boognelson87]

I believe the 2no([HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]) and 3no([HASHTAG]#3[/HASHTAG]) are sizes of boveda packets. Different sizes for different size jars. But, I'm not sure.

This could be. @AutoLowRyder is that what you mean? The number of packs? Also, what gram? 4-gram, 8-gram, 60 or 67-gram or 320.