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I just wanted to note that I watered in these four TM3 fabric pots 3 gallon decently packed in there imo,and I used over four gallons of water.4.5 maybe and got total of less than 1 gallon run off. normally i would go MUCH less like half gallon. the reasoning behind this is to lightly rinse the richness if you will out of the potting up process and mixing busting up all them wee hot balls of castings/foods and let it breath well. very active batch this round.as you can see from the color of the water anywho,wish me luck LOL