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Going to use this to document breeding projects.

Today an Afghan Kush Ryder and a Purple Kush auto were both killed and thrown away.
The AKR was growing WAY to slowly and had two pairs of one bladed leaves instead of 1-3-5 it went 1-1--5 which is annoying to me lol. Then the purple kush was just looking bad like it had slime from the neem spray on it and the leaves were damaged most likely by the thrips that were crawling on it.

Interestingly enough the better looking Purple Kush that is being sprayed with homemade cs (more on that in a bit) has the least thrips out of all non flowering plants in that tent. It also took the neem spray the first week very well without looking like crap like the other one. Sowed a new AKR in the same soil / same pot, but this time put it in a handful of peat so it wont have as many nutrients for the first coupled days. The soil was ocean forest (no more in stock gonna have to try miracle grow with perlite and vermiculite added to cool down the nute strength in there and give aeration unless another cheap brand is found), and it had added vermiculite and perlite which keeps it very soft and moist without letting it get compacted as long as you don't water it like an animal from the top from a foot above and crush down the soil.

Also got some spinosad containing spray today that will be used on all the plants and the tent later to help get rid of the damn thrips. Neem only slow them down but they still hurt the seedlings I think and they are definitely still alive. Just less of them.


Anyway, the one on the right is the worse of the two (obv) purple kush plants so it was killed.
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And this is the akr planted not more than 2 weeks MAX after these
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Here is the Purple Kush that is still being sprayed with homemade cs. No reversal yet, but some pistils are turning brown. Note the very wide and stubby leaf shape. That's a trait I want to pass along.
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You can see the cs (amber droplets) on the plant in the above pic.

This was the purple kush that is being sprayed the day I begain spraying (so still unaffected). It had pistils, and has only put out more pistils since then so far, but this top looked a little weird to me at first glance. Looks like a little green nub. What do you think?
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Also, this is the akr pot now (you can see the lighter peat in the middle.
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I will make a post about the colloidal silver being used (homemade) in a little while when I take some pics.
 
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Excellent hazy! A few tips when combatting these nasties it's best to use a multi product approach such as azamax, neem, nuke em, forbid (like a nuke becareful very toxic) and some mosquito dunks. If you rely on just one product you'll create super thirps that will be resilient to whatever product you used often. Also some biological warfare maybe some green lacewing eggs.... Than try a organic spray (canyene pepper, peppermint oils). Also ocean Forrest was probably the culprit of your problems! Damn bag of happy frog set havoc off in my grow room battling spider mites, white powdery mold, I've also increased air exchange and put a oscillating fan In there to keep it nice and breezy.
The plant that is probably doing better than the others actually is probably due to the spraying of the CS, it's probably killing all the nasties ;) the plant looks right on the money for a reversal... Keep on spraying and doing what you are!

sounds like a fantasic cross! Wishing you luck! And it you need any help with your project or someone to brainstorm ideas feel free to PM me ;) also got links to both the cannabis breeders bible and marijuana botany... If interest in either book or both hit me up I'll hook you up with links!

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Excellent hazy! A few tips when combatting these nasties it's best to use a multi product approach such as azamax, neem, nuke em, forbid (like a nuke becareful very toxic) and some mosquito dunks. If you rely on just one product you'll create super thirps that will be resilient to whatever product you used often. Also some biological warfare maybe some green lacewing eggs.... Than try a organic spray (canyene pepper, peppermint oils). Also ocean Forrest was probably the culprit of your problems! Damn bag of happy frog set havoc off in my grow room battling spider mites, white powdery mold, I've also increased air exchange and put a oscillating fan In there to keep it nice and breezy.
The plant that is probably doing better than the others actually is probably due to the spraying of the CS, it's probably killing all the nasties ;) the plant looks right on the money for a reversal... Keep on spraying and doing what you are!

sounds like a fantasic cross! Wishing you luck! And it you need any help with your project or someone to brainstorm ideas feel free to PM me ;) also got links to both the cannabis breeders bible and marijuana botany... If interest in either book or both hit me up I'll hook you up with links!

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Hey thanks man! Glad to see you stopping by since I've been checking out some of your grows lately. Awesome work!

The purple kush I posted looks good to me, and yea it prob is becaquse of the cs lmao unlike the premade stuff which almost kills the plant and burns budsites/leaves, but the one thing I was wondering is does the second pic I posted of it from before I started spraying look normal for a female? Looks almost like a little nub at the top. Just wanted to be 100% it wasn't going to hermie and me not notice because of the spray lol

I am looking to stabilize that chubby leaf Purple Kush pheno, get some good AKR seeds, and some Think Different seeds, just to have a bunch of those strains pure, and then work with mixing in some other plants.

One that you might like is Cannatonic + auto. not sure which auto or pheno of Cannatonic yet, but a cbd auto like that would be nice. And the super sativa pheno at 20-26% thc (according to some chart I saw) would be nice mixed with think different which is already sativa dominant, ANd a beast yielder.

Oh yea, and thanks for the thirp killing tip. Those little bastards are so hateful and they jump onto everything they get within a few inches of. Including tools and hands/clothes -_-
 
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Here is the Cannatonic test chart:
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And here are 3 different types I isolated. Supposedly there is a fourth and one is purple, but it isn't as clear as these three seem to be in terms of thc:cbd ratios
Red=High CBD around 8.5% or less THC
Blue=Avg 12-15% thc low cbd
Green= "Super Sativa" High THC ~24% avg + veyr low cbd.
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I'm gonna hang out and watch this if ya don't mind
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hot shots no pest strips , buy 3 , open one at a time 3-5 days apart , killed both thrips and mites for me , the mites i battled for over a year , using every product i could find/order , the thrips was the same but for over 2 years

i was shocked and amazed by the no pest strips , especially because i originally bought them to combat house flies , there was some strange thing go on within an hour of where i live a few years back that caused an explosion in numbers of common house flies for miles n miles

peace

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hot shots no pest strips , buy 3 , open one at a time 3-5 days apart , killed both thrips and mites for me , the mites i battled for over a year , using every product i could find/order , the thrips was the same but for over 2 years

i was shocked and amazed by the no pest strips , especially because i originally bought them to combat house flies , there was some strange thing go on within an hour of where i live a few years back that caused an explosion in numbers of common house flies for miles n miles

peace
 
Here is the cs being used:
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The first batch that was in the sprayer (the little bit left you see in the spray bottle now) was about 17ppm and filtered through a coffee filter. Was amber when it was made. The jar turned amber overnight (17ppm was clear when made and strained). Also strained it through a coffee filter. Just mixed it with the remaining stuff in the bottle and sprayed a little while ago on the Purple Kush again.
 
Here is the cs being used:
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The first batch that was in the sprayer (the little bit left you see in the spray bottle now) was about 17ppm and filtered through a coffee filter. Was amber when it was made. The jar turned amber overnight (17ppm was clear when made and strained). Also strained it through a coffee filter. Just mixed it with the remaining stuff in the bottle and sprayed a little while ago on the Purple Kush again.

thats quite extreme imo

the one time i mentioned making some that color was due to the wires being too close together , could be that because you use 3-4 times the voltage that i use , you maybe need to keep your wires 3-4 times further away ?

i threw away my c.s. that looked like that

peace

p.s. i hope you use a brown/non bleached coffee filter
 
Here is the cs being used:
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The first batch that was in the sprayer (the little bit left you see in the spray bottle now) was about 17ppm and filtered through a coffee filter. Was amber when it was made. The jar turned amber overnight (17ppm was clear when made and strained). Also strained it through a coffee filter. Just mixed it with the remaining stuff in the bottle and sprayed a little while ago on the Purple Kush again.

The 40 ppm batch I made like a month ago is still clear. I think b0b is onto something with the wire distance :Sharing One:
 
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No prob man! Welcome aboard! Feel free to chime in if you have any comments/questions/suggestions.

thats quite extreme imo

the one time i mentioned making some that color was due to the wires being too close together , could be that because you use 3-4 times the voltage that i use , you maybe need to keep your wires 3-4 times further away ?

i threw away my c.s. that looked like that

peace

p.s. i hope you use a brown/non bleached coffee filter

Actually, I didn't think of using an unbleached filter. Good idea. Gotta go pick up a pack that'll last next to forever lol.
The higher charge might cause more of the silver to clump up around the wires, , but it was clear maybe a tiny bit cloudy when it was freshly made and strained. I read that higher voltage doesn't cause particels to break off in bigger pieces, but I also didn't clean the wires so they got covered in like 1/3" diameter of gunk which was floating around a little bit too. Had I cleaned them every hour for the first two hours and then taken it out it would probably still havehit 15-17ppm. Also, the jar it was made in wasn't completely cleaned. It was washed, but it had some thin silver on the bottom and silver discoloration on the entire glass from the previous two batches that. That prob affectedit as well. Didn't have anything else to make it in at that point. Next time it is going to be made straight in a clean mason jar and then decanted/strained into another one for storage. Quart mason jars are slightly bigger than the current jar it was made in.

As for keeping the wires farther apart, can they be bent into right angles, because the wires fit into two little holes on the generator that cant be moved. It said to keep the wires an equal distance apart from each other the whole time but does thatonly count for the underwater parts? The book also said to submerge liek 80% at least or somethign like that. I did read online that higher voltage is ok as long as you have more surface area of silver underwater to conduct it, but personally, I have no idea how accurate that is lol.

No point throwing it away though because it isn't burning the plant at all, so if it ends up reversing it, then there was no negatives to the amber color. I have a bottle that I left for a while that only turned grey and then turned a dark amber color like very dark amber. Going to strain it again becaus eit had a bunch of black sivler particles on the bottom formthe wires, and then i may test it on a random plant sometime in the near future if i get a successful batch of fem seeds.. not going to use it on an important plant tho since it is the weirdest colored batch
 
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