I read alot of reviews that said, this isn't all it's cracked up to be? but we'll give er hell guy's!!!
Yeah it's seeming to be a good base product but could use some additives for sure. Wish I wouldn't have put my whole garden on it right away lmao I guess I'll figure it out haha but drastically see a decrease in yield coming this round, yikes. Like you said GA give em hell! Lol
 
Day 43 made up the feed with 150ppm base water (RO + calimagic) followed week 8 feed but i added it mixing up 4 liters as a gallon which will dilute it some as their measurements are pet gallon. I ended at 850ppm 5.8ph last night and the problems are not better.... They seem happy and praying and the problems look nothing like the lockout I've experienced prior to using this line. The company did tell us the schedule was created light so there's room to increase some nutrients.... I think it's super close to what I want and with the addition of one or two products I think this line could be killer. A dash of some monster bloom by grotek and maybe some avalanche bud hardener would really kick this line up. Veg went great to be honest and I didn't notice any discoloration until the pest week or so. Day 35-40 ish. So I either didn't hit the transition hard enough or I didn't match my NPK values right. Besides needing to add more stuff that would be my first thought on what happened. I have a friend that runs photos and followed schedule with out having these problems. Just this morning I asked him a free more questions in waiting a reply on. @Bum @GoAuto6 and @stepside how are things looking for you guys?
I think the plants I have going for testing I started recently I will push a little harder and try hitting the transition to bloom a little faster. Today in the pictures from minutes ago is day 44. I feed until run off last night on day 43 as described above...as u can tell it's not an over feed lockout look at all. Definitely deficiency, which I'll take over lockout any day. I think round two with these nutes will play out better. We are all wading into random waters with this line being new and never ran on autos. I think the transition here with this line is huge and with autos that PK needs be introduced heavier sooner than I did.View attachment 681482 View attachment 681484 View attachment 681485 View attachment 681486 View attachment 681487 View attachment 681488
Hey @Discretepete2676 check out recharge and mammoth p I will never go without those 2 products girls have never been healthier slf100 is also in my garden another amazing product a organic enzyme

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Hey @Discretepete2676 check out recharge and mammoth p I will never go without those 2 products girls have never been healthier slf100 is also in my garden another amazing product a organic enzyme

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Both good items but the issue is the nutrients not being there. Mammoth P helps the uptake of P and stuff, I usually use it. and slf 100 is just an enzyme to help break stuff down. But in both cases the nutrients still need to be there for both those items to help substantially. I appreciate the info though brother!
 
Both good items but the issue is the nutrients not being there. Mammoth P helps the uptake of P and stuff, I usually use it. and slf 100 is just an enzyme to help break stuff down. But in both cases the nutrients still need to be there for both those items to help substantially. I appreciate the info though brother!
I see what your saying man welp that's what we're here for helping each other together we can figure it out will have a update on the girls either tonight or in the morning they're loving life [emoji41][emoji41][emoji41]

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:toke: hey guys :smokeout:... Space Brudda, you too ay? :doh:

..okay, I picked up a brochure of Elite from my local shop homie,... generally positive feedback from his customers so far, for what that's worth- :thumbsup:
...looking at the N conc. and inputs, it seems light on it... not enough to restrict nice growth or anything like that, but theoretically, maybe practically here, it's not leaving much in reserve for late stages when the N input is getting reduced, forcing the plant to dig into reserves sooner that are not very robust...(recall, N is taken up by the plant whether it needs it or not, and any excess is stored for later needs)... it sure looks like it from the symptoms, though seeing it hit up high like this in some cases is atypical,... but something I see that isn't really shown in other info sources is how P defc. can apparently cause this overall paling out and not start with the larger necrotic patches until well into this color loss (Bud-E, that pic above of the GC's, one on the right, leaf top right side that's pale with dead patches-- classic combo there) ,... that, or in conjunction with low N stores? :shrug:--not really sure, just a strong suspicion! I've seen it on my own plants, this yellowing of uppers, and it was not correctable despite foliar and soil dosing of extra's of both, it just slowed it down some... Pete, I do see the other plants showing this mid-upper level yellowing, which certainly hints at a consistent nutritional issue across the board,.. no way all those pots are pH SNAFU'ed! :nono:
So, Pete and Bud-E looking at the part B and Root Tonic, that combined would seem to offer pretty stout PK inputs, if the applied in equal amounts and perhaps higher concentration,... I'm not sure what your test protocol calls for in terms of other nutes/supp's if needed, to preserve the integrity of the nutrient (alone) testing? Using a different P-K product might queer the test,... Avalanche, not being of significant source of NPK (maybe even secondary) nute elements should be fine IMO,... I love that stuff! Funny smell though, like smoked seaweed or something? :rofl: No arguing with the solid nuggetry it promotes though! :cheers:
 
:toke: hey guys :smokeout:... Space Brudda, you too ay? :doh:

..okay, I picked up a brochure of Elite from my local shop homie,... generally positive feedback from his customers so far, for what that's worth- :thumbsup:
...looking at the N conc. and inputs, it seems light on it... not enough to restrict nice growth or anything like that, but theoretically, maybe practically here, it's not leaving much in reserve for late stages when the N input is getting reduced, forcing the plant to dig into reserves sooner that are not very robust...(recall, N is taken up by the plant whether it needs it or not, and any excess is stored for later needs)... it sure looks like it from the symptoms, though seeing it hit up high like this in some cases is atypical,... but something I see that isn't really shown in other info sources is how P defc. can apparently cause this overall paling out and not start with the larger necrotic patches until well into this color loss (Bud-E, that pic above of the GC's, one on the right, leaf top right side that's pale with dead patches-- classic combo there) ,... that, or in conjunction with low N stores? :shrug:--not really sure, just a strong suspicion! I've seen it on my own plants, this yellowing of uppers, and it was not correctable despite foliar and soil dosing of extra's of both, it just slowed it down some... Pete, I do see the other plants showing this mid-upper level yellowing, which certainly hints at a consistent nutritional issue across the board,.. no way all those pots are pH SNAFU'ed! :nono:
So, Pete and Bud-E looking at the part B and Root Tonic, that combined would seem to offer pretty stout PK inputs, if the applied in equal amounts and perhaps higher concentration,... I'm not sure what your test protocol calls for in terms of other nutes/supp's if needed, to preserve the integrity of the nutrient (alone) testing? Using a different P-K product might queer the test,... Avalanche, not being of significant source of NPK (maybe even secondary) nute elements should be fine IMO,... I love that stuff! Funny smell though, like smoked seaweed or something? :rofl: No arguing with the solid nuggetry it promotes though! :cheers:
I'm in sunshine [HASHTAG]#4[/HASHTAG] ph between 5.8-63 always. Tagging more of the lower end during flower.
The root tonic confuses me brother! It has the pk value I want, but they shut it down when flowering really starts. My boss said because chemically it's not made for flowering or something. She said it's science and the way it was made?
@Son of Hobbes are we allowed to supplement in a case like this in order to preserve our meds and grow our do we have to compete the grow as is? Just curious in this circumstance what the preferred move is?
 
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