Indoor Elite garden nutrients

[Waira]

:smoking:..oh, so there are consistent manifestations over the whole plant, in parts only plus that one whole branch,... how's it growing, BTW? Stunted?
...I dunno man, you're an experienced and skilled grow my friend, the usual noob/estupido things that might cause this I won't bother asking you about; I don't believe (most) of this is nutritional,... besides, certain specifics of the way that color break and "variegation" is showing, and the lateral curving of some fan leaf fingers as it grows, alarms me a bit,... I hate to even suggest it, given how rare, poorly documented, and symptom variable they are, but I'll slip the "V" word out here .... no smokers/chewers or other horticultural exposures around? Virus' can be in seed, or even on the outside; cross contamination is easy... Again, I really doubt it,.. and the only way to really confirm is to test it, which would involve several actually, since viral tests are single-type specific usually,... damn symptoms overlap with other non-pathogenic ones, and which symptoms are caused by which virus and strain variant is more mud in the mix as well! small wonder there's such poor solid reliable info on the subject....

 

[Discretepete2676]

Just some pics until I feed tomorrow. Then I'll give a more thorough update. Last feed was just a watering with no nutrients. Stretch is completely over and it's time to fill these girls in.

 

[Discretepete2676]

Just some pics until I feed tomorrow. Then I'll give a more thorough update. Last feed was just a watering with no nutrients. Stretch is completely over and it's time to fill these girls in. View attachment 680337 View attachment 680340 View attachment 680346 View attachment 680347

 

[budelee]

:smoking:..oh, so there are consistent manifestations over the whole plant, in parts only plus that one whole branch,... how's it growing, BTW? Stunted?
...I dunno man, you're an experienced and skilled grow my friend, the usual noob/estupido things that might cause this I won't bother asking you about; I don't believe (most) of this is nutritional,... besides, certain specifics of the way that color break and "variegation" is showing, and the lateral curving of some fan leaf fingers as it grows, alarms me a bit,... I hate to even suggest it, given how rare, poorly documented, and symptom variable they are, but I'll slip the "V" word out here .... no smokers/chewers or other horticultural exposures around? Virus' can be in seed, or even on the outside; cross contamination is easy... Again, I really doubt it,.. and the only way to really confirm is to test it, which would involve several actually, since viral tests are single-type specific usually,... damn symptoms overlap with other non-pathogenic ones, and which symptoms are caused by which virus and strain variant is more mud in the mix as well! small wonder there's such poor solid reliable info on the subject....

No smokers/chewers around the plants...being one of two seeds and one of four in the test,i guess its plant specific,whatever it is... Im about to update but the info prolly won't matter for this specific issue..well brother @Waira ,if you can ise the pics anywhere,feel free to use them,the plants are coming to a close...ohhh about the stunting,it was smaller that the other green crack plant,it did make a comback to pass the non Optic Foliar plant,height on the "yellow" plant is about 20",height on other is about 18",both short in my opinion,i didnt look up the breeders information tho..

 

[budelee]

Okay complete update..Day 54 ..using week 8 of feed schedule,i went a touch heavy compared to the numbers given,added 15 ml of cal mag,to bring the ppm to the 900 range..the plants are coming close to the end,i will minitor the feed strength for about another 1-1.5 weeks before i start tapering it down.the plants seem to be yellowing up which compared to nute schedule in the past is early,meaning the feed may not be giving them enough of what they really need,evaluation of bud growth/structure with previous nutes also shows the bud being behind size development for this stage..i am not/will not contribute this entirely to the nutes,we have all been growing long enough to know that there are many factors to having/producing consistent harvest yields and these plants had other issues along the way.. Heres some pics which are side by side comparisons of the two strains,there were only 4 plants ran for this test..two Dinafem White Widows and two Short Stuff Green Crack...

these are the WW

And this last pic is the Green Crack

 

[Discretepete2676]

I seen to be experiencing some deficiency issues with nitrogen as well. Early fading of fans leaves, buds are not swelling quite like in used to and I'm hitting them full strength right now week 8. I do realize this is a new line and I need to find the tweeks. But I think after testing I'll be looking into bloom boosters and a bud hardener I think. Pictures coming here I'll a minute

 

[Discretepete2676]

Day 43 made up the feed with 150ppm base water (RO + calimagic) followed week 8 feed but i added it mixing up 4 liters as a gallon which will dilute it some as their measurements are pet gallon. I ended at 850ppm 5.8ph last night and the problems are not better.... They seem happy and praying and the problems look nothing like the lockout I've experienced prior to using this line. The company did tell us the schedule was created light so there's room to increase some nutrients.... I think it's super close to what I want and with the addition of one or two products I think this line could be killer. A dash of some monster bloom by grotek and maybe some avalanche bud hardener would really kick this line up. Veg went great to be honest and I didn't notice any discoloration until the pest week or so. Day 35-40 ish. So I either didn't hit the transition hard enough or I didn't match my NPK values right. Besides needing to add more stuff that would be my first thought on what happened. I have a friend that runs photos and followed schedule with out having these problems. Just this morning I asked him a free more questions in waiting a reply on. @Bum @GoAuto6 and @stepside how are things looking for you guys?
I think the plants I have going for testing I started recently I will push a little harder and try hitting the transition to bloom a little faster. Today in the pictures from minutes ago is day 44. I feed until run off last night on day 43 as described above...as u can tell it's not an over feed lockout look at all. Definitely deficiency, which I'll take over lockout any day. I think round two with these nutes will play out better. We are all wading into random waters with this line being new and never ran on autos. I think the transition here with this line is huge and with autos that PK needs be introduced heavier sooner than I did.

 

[Discretepete2676]

@Waira I'm having similar issues as @budelee what's your thoughts on this after you read my above post?

 

[Discretepete2676]

With my old line I had a product I used between days 30-45 that helped boost just P and K which really seemed to help boost production. This line I don't have that which leads me to believe im struggling with hitting the transition right...

 

[GoAuto6]

I'm having alot of yellowing issues also, gonna try and up the feed and see what happens... pics later today.