Indoor Doctor's Choice Chronic Ryder bx fastflower

[Steviestash]

Who doesn't like litte pollen chucking

 

[Arthur]

Who doesn't like litte pollen chucking

Amen!

 

[Waira]

Hi friends now some bud shots and a few words to the three different phenos.


5 / 3 / 6
Peach smell , strong high

Looks like this is the bullseye - ...that it showed in 3 pheno's out of 6(?) at this early stage is very exciting and encouraging!
The family resemblance is certainly there among them... Another good sign!

How I wish you could lab test them all for cannabinoid and terp' profiles... So much insight can come from seeing the dots connected between the perceived effects/potency vs. the raw data...
Of particular interest is the girl with the richest aroma but mildest potency... And one can never tell (initially) if more cure time will enhance this, gotta travel that road to find out.
I've had a pretty extreme example of this in Mephisto's Livers bx. Early on, she was pretty meh in aroma and potency... Significant improvement after several weeks,... 6 months later, after not cracking the jar for several weeks, she emerged transformed! Terp's shifted markedly and (somehow) ramped up, potency followed in kind -

Hello Tobe
Your feedback on our strain warms our hearts! This F1 generation, a backcross of our autoflowering Chronic Ryder and Serious Seeds' original Simon's Chronic, is a true gem with its sweet aroma, highlighted by delightful notes of citrus and apricot.

Your cultivation expertise has truly brought out the best in these plants - growing naturally and neatly, flaunting impressive colas adorned with frosty trichomes, just as Chronic should be.

We're excited that you're open to exploring regular varieties because home breeders are the backbone of the cannabis world. That's why we launched our Be a Breeder program, offering stable and ready-for-breeding varieties.

Our current lineup boasts legendary strains like the regular format Lowryder, an authentic IBL, and the fast version of the classic Chronic in the first generation. Excitingly, we're expanding the Be a Breeder family with ongoing testing of Chronic Ryder Auto BX Regular, which would also feature a delightful apricot aroma, Diesel Ryder Auto BX Regular, Purple Ryder Auto BX Regular, Sour Puffs Reg, and DC Kush Reg. If you're interested in trying these strains, we're ready to send them out for tests before they hit the shop!

We are searching for passionate growers who want to make their own varieties with our regular seeds and personal support! That’s why I extend a personal invitation to you and all growers who share the enthusiasm for experimenting with regular seeds. As a tester, you'll be at the forefront of innovation, getting an exclusive preview of these babies before they hit the shelves.

Join us in the Be a Breeder program, and let's continue pushing the boundaries of cannabis cultivation together.

Welcome JD, it's fantastic to finally have one of the true auto OG's here!
The timing is very good as well I feel... I/we see more and more interest in breeding at the hobbiest level, more and more interest in reg' seeds which as you know is bloody scarce out there. Also, the market for sex reversal kits is growing along with this.
I hope to see a snowball effect build on all such breeding endeavors, with folks at forums like this seeing their mates have a go, all the while the "mystery" and various concerns start to fade away as they all see that it's not so rocket science after all...
It's a natural progression too for some growers who have honed their skills well enough to expand their proverbial grow-tool kits, and are ready to venture into new territory!

...Our good buddy BCBudlady is a perfect example of this- ...100% home grower, small scale, she's taken on small repro' projects from other breeders to help preserve fine cultivars; make her own custom crosses that suite her specific needs; repro' a beloved cultivar (24carat) that has drifted disappointingly far from their original form in their current state from the original breeder... Plus some one-off chucks that I can personally attest to as being on par with the best out there-
It isn't always a smashing success, but working with fem's only to begin with is no small challenge as many well know! Reversal's are anything but guaranteed, right? Even done right, the pollen you get is still a gamble...
Reg's take all that out of the equation, and best of all, with auto's, growers will not have to house and care for plants very long at all before they know the sex, should they be doing a sinsemilla run, and need the spaced reclaimed-

OH....And with fem' seed prices these days, between marketing hype, %THC touting, "awards" and all that, it's become rather ridiculous in many cases- ... I've not bought seeds in years truth be told, but I watch pricing just the same... Some of what I see from "big house" breeders and banks is 100% , you gotta be kidding...... To say nothing of "elite" breeders with Cup winners and the prices they charge and still get for their genetics!

...soooo, Huzzah! - to home made goodness!

 

[tobe]

@Waira
Maybe I be able to test my stuff later this when legislation comes. You are right the potency change but also in the other phenos so the difference still exists.

To the seeds you are right bro there are so much people say they breed strains but it's only a cross of two elite cuts , to me that's not breeding that's only crossing. Look at the small private breeders they offer good and stable stuff mostly f3 + generation of selection, with goals they set for their project. That's real breeding. I got the hope to see more private breed strains in the future.

Grow your own and breed your own !!!!

Have a nice day my friend
cu tobe

 

[Waira]

I hear you Tobe! I consider, for the causal home breeder, just making more seeds at all is Level 1. You have to get the basics like timing, pollen management, knock-up technique, storage, etc. under your belt first - - K.I.S.S. first!
Then the real fun/work can start, with more selective pheno' hunting and isolation...

A big part of this will what cultivar one is working with as well, and how stable it is... To your point, crosses of crosses that were never really worked past F1 or F2 have the potential to be all over the map! And if that's what one is starting with, and they want isolate a specific pheno, it's going to be more difficult to do so.
Starting with a solid, well bred stable crosses would be wise. Their progeny will be good object lessons on genetic inheritance and expressions.
Getting a feel for this, developing that magic breeder's eye, is a true skill!
This quickly shows just how big a can of worms true breeding endeavors really are... But the best thing for home breeders is that they can dip their toes in these waters as little or a lot as they want, it just depends on what they want and are comfortable with. Dialing up or down the level of sophistication will be up to them!
I feel part of the fun will also be just making crosses of their choice, to see what falls out of the pheno' trees - Win or lose, the addiction often starts right there!
....Once again, I cite BCBudlady as an example. During her more serious endeavors, she'll often make a "why not" cross or two along the way, knocking up a branch on something and to see what ya get... She did this when trying to repro' Livers bx, and hit Lil'MoBStar with some pollen (fem'ed BTW, and the latter was also on the task board to repro because she was an outstanding cross made by Laughing Hyena (Beaver back then))... A wild mash-up of parentage, no telling what would show up!
So far not many grown, but all were pretty different. Mine was way out there, a gorgeous little thing that produced wonderful aroma so far from anything in her parents; deep minty/menthol, earthy dank...
Her cross of Blue Microverse x Sour Hound has been showing excellently as well! ...Point is, this kind of casual crossing is so much fun and I hope will appeal to folks who want to get into the game! Who knows what one will find, and spark a deeper more serious interest in breeding if that truly special plant shows up
.... I guess it all depends on what the folks want in the end, and along the way... it's a journey, right? ... and lots of open paths the follow depending on their desires,...and what gems may show up- ...I think that's the fuel for the belly fire right there, finding something special they made and trying to lock it down!

Yes, you're so right about so many of the retail oriented "breeders" and the F1 circus crosses they cough up for sale- ...sure, odds are if you breed great with great, you'll probably end up with something also great (but certainly not always!).... To say nothing of the lack of larger number's running to see just how common a given pheno actually is- ...Seldom do we see any such caveats mentioned when they are hucking them seeds, hey?
I think many of them are banking on that F1 stage cheap hack window, knowing that F2 will be a whole different story and very likely much more work to isolate a particular pheno'...

 

[tobe]

Hey @Waira
All what you said is right I am totally with you , I call all the f1 I made test crosses because at this stage to me it's a test to see if they match together. After the first grow of the f1 I decided to work with this cross or leave it.

The fun game to me is to find interesting phenos and try to isolate them.

I got much f1 test crosses in my seed stash but also some f2 where I decided to work them out.

On my list to work with are:
El fuego del Shiva X Orange Assault f3

(Bluetooth x Orange Assault) X black berry gum f3

Peyote cookies X Orange Assault f2

Skywalker haze X Orange Assault f2

The f1 who got my real interest are
Jaggen X Orange Assault
Shogun X Orange Assault
Zkittles X Orange Assault

At the moment I don't know what can run this year but I started with the Jaggen X Orange Assault because that's the oldest seeds in my stash .

 

[Waira]

Cheers Tobe! You too are a shining example of this -

I remember when you were first starting your works here years ago...
OA was a fantastic result, it showed so well and pleased everybody who grew it, becoming a foundation cultivar for you, it was that solid! And then the crosses made with it continued to blow folks away! I recall the finest of bud porn especially from brother @hecno -
He ran early OA x BBgum, and the BT/OA x BBgum also... Man, those were juicy goodness! BBgum was a perfect parent to cross with, it brought so much to the game

I'm still in love with 'Shiva and OA Shiva- Excellent stuff! ...Where is straight 'Shiva at now, F4? ...and the OA cross F3, fully auto or not quite yet? There is nice potential in them for so-called FV's too...
The Cookies crosses were resin factories, definitely looking forward to seeing them get to full auto!

I know fem's aren't likely anytime soon, but a guy can dream right?

 

[Doctor's Choice]

Thanks my friend for your kind words makes me happy to do some more tests in the future and use some of your strains to cross them with my own creations.

@Waira @Mossy @Son of Hobbes @hecno @St. Tom

Are my friends from the AFN team who can help you with the boards software and how to write threads . Talk to @Son of Hobbes he can help you with a sub forum.

I can recommend the breeder section there are people learning how to breed and getting support from the community. The vibe in this board is very friendly and a lot of good growers are around. My good friend @hecno do some top notch grows check his threads out maybe he got interest in testing some of your stuff. My good friend @BCBudlady is also working with regular Seeds she is very talented grower. But you will see here are so much more you will like it.

I wish you a a nice day/ night
cu tobe

Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm thrilled to hear that you're interested in doing more tests in the future. It's truly exciting to collaborate with fellow enthusiasts like yourself.

I greatly appreciate the introduction to the AFN team, and I'll make sure to explore the breeder section and connect with the community. I'm looking forward to interacting with the talented growers that you recommended to me!

 

[tobe]

Cheers Tobe! You too are a shining example of this -View attachment 1662149 I remember when you were first starting your works here years ago...
OA was a fantastic result, it showed so well and pleased everybody who grew it, becoming a foundation cultivar for you, it was that solid! And then the crosses made with it continued to blow folks away! I recall the finest of bud porn especially from brother @hecno -
He ran early OA x BBgum, and the BT/OA x BBgum also... Man, those were juicy goodness! BBgum was a perfect parent to cross with, it brought so much to the game

I'm still in love with 'Shiva and OA Shiva- Excellent stuff! ...Where's is straight 'Shiva at now, F4? ...and the OA cross F3, fully auto or not quite yet? There is nice potential in them for so-called FV's too...
The Cookies crosses were resin factories, definitely looking forward to seeing them get to full auto!

I know fem's aren't likely anytime soon, but a guy can dream right?

Hey Waira
The Shiva cross are f3 but not autoflower. I didn't found the right male but killer photo phenos. These f3 will be back crossed to our f1 mother plant. The mother is very resistance against trips. She can handle a very dry but also a very wet environment we tested both.
But I will also dig deeper in the f2 to look out for autoflower phenos. The breeding plan is to cross the selected auto back to the f1 mother, you see it's a longer project to make a good stable shiva Assault with the traits I am looking for.

I plan to let some f3 tested local and by some other good friends. Maybe if I need more testers I talk to @Son of Hobbes for his ok to give out some testers at AFN too.

Have a nice day
cu tobe

 

[tobe]

Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm thrilled to hear that you're interested in doing more tests in the future. It's truly exciting to collaborate with fellow enthusiasts like yourself.

I greatly appreciate the introduction to the AFN team, and I'll make sure to explore the breeder section and connect with the community. I'm looking forward to interacting with the talented growers that you recommended to me!

Hey my friend
I told you this is the place to find the best autoflower community in the internet.

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Welcome back! Pull up a 5 gallon bucket and stay for a while! Kinda looks like that you ran out of home projects to work on!:eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

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It's a random talk about everything a good way to get in touch with the AFN members.

Have a nice day
cu tobe