Do any of you know of any bad effects from adding molasses?

[Son of Hobbes]

Hey guys. And by guys, I mean @autobeast and @Groff . This thread seems to be taking a bit of a shit with some of the comments lol...

Look, you guys are both EXCELLENT growers. Like if that needs to be said by anyone not involved with your arguments, let it be me, and I will say it. You've both been here for ages. You've both offered excellent advice to both growers on here and even myself personally (from things I've read, gleaned, absorbed.) But right now, even as good natured as intended (or not) this kind of seems a bit "ego vs ego.". And as fun as it is to ready for a few posts on a bored atypical Tuesday evening, it's not really what I expect of either of you nor something I think most people appreciate reading on AFN (a site where we've touted for years that comments in threads like these don't get much air-time.)

I don't know if you guys can reach a common ground on the conversation, but I'd ask you both, as vets of AFN, to please try to tone things down. You're passionate guys and we really like passion for growing around here, but let's not turn passion to anger, and this has been PAGES of anger now.

Let's smoke, toke, and chill a minute.

 

[Waira]

I have 2 auto plants in 50 50 coco perlite that I am using the biotabs line with silicium flash instead of orgatrex. I have read different opinions on different websites. I was thinking of adding like 1 tbs per gallon of water like 1 time per week every week from week 1 to the end of the plant flowering on there. The nutrients are mixed into the coco. I only water with ph tap water on there.

Do you think that is a good idea for the plants? I have read that molasses helps the microbes. Would there be any bad effects from adding molasses to plants? The plants would likely be on autopots but I would likely turn off the autopots 1 time per week to do the hand watering of the molasses water to it then turn the autopots back on. Would you give it the molasses more than 1 time per week? Would you not do it from week 1 or what weeks would you do it? The plants are 2 auto plants that likely harvest on week 10-12 from what I have read on there.

It's a fine occasional supplement, but should be used with an eye to what other carbo' sources, and what other Ca, Mg and K sources are going in... The more full flavored (less refined) types have more nutrients in them... Pick up a few jars at the store and look at the label for the nutritional values, you'll see the % (human of course) daily values.... For plants, use the full flavor stuff, more actual plant nutrients in them... better still, they are chelated (ionic charge protected from reacting with something else and getting locked up... Check out the Reference section for good info on chelation, humic-fulvic too)-
.... general dosing is about 1 tsp/qt, or 1T/gal,... such dilution isn't going to send anything sideways with the soil herd... Overdoing it may indeed cause problems!
*edit* -- forgot to add, why carb's? It's a carbon/energy source for the microbes, boosting them makes them do their part a bit more.. breaking down other organic and inorganic substances, cycling various nutrients, changing the form they are in, converting them into forms the plant can ultimately take up and/or form the other microbes can tackle to achieve the same end result....


---> Looking at labels now...
Brer Rabbit full flavor: K 6%, Ca 8%, Mg 8%, Fe 2 %
Grandma's : K 3%; Ca 2%; Mg 2%; Fe 2%

 

[420Forever]

It's a fine occasional supplement, but should be used with an eye to what other carbo' sources, and what other Ca, Mg and K sources are going in... The more full flavored (less refined) types have more nutrients in them... Pick up a few jars at the store and look at the label for the nutritional values, you'll see the % (human of course) daily values.... For plants, use the full flavor stuff, more actual plant nutrients in them... better still, they are chelated (ionic charge protected from reacting with something else and getting locked up... Check out the Reference section for good info on chelation, humic-fulvic too)-
.... general dosing is about 1 tsp/qt, or 1T/gal,... such dilution isn't going to send anything sideways with the soil herd... Overdoing it may indeed cause problems!
---> Looking at labels now...
Brer Rabbit full flavor: K 6%, Ca 8%, Mg 8%, Fe 2 %
Grandma's : K 3%; Ca 2%; Mg 2%; Fe 2%

brer rabbit for the win! ppp

 

[Waira]

it's pretty earthy, more than I like when cooking with it! Grandma's is milder, less dirt flavor - ... damn, this is making me crave Shoo-Fly pie! That's literally my Grandma's thing there, Pennsylvania-Dutch (practically Amish) regional cooking,... if you like molasees and warm sweet dessert spices, it's to die for!

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I am not sure what brand I have but I am sure it is unsulphured Blackstrap molasses. I use it the last two weeks in my rock wool cubes. Just because you are growing in an inert media does not mean you do not develope a root biome. You do! I feed and nourish mine all along and in the last two weeks when the plants are done making their own carbs I feed her some! I am sure if they could the microbes would invite me to the party.

 

[Death The Cultivator]

It's a fine occasional supplement, but should be used with an eye to what other carbo' sources, and what other Ca, Mg and K sources are going in... The more full flavored (less refined) types have more nutrients in them... Pick up a few jars at the store and look at the label for the nutritional values, you'll see the % (human of course) daily values.... For plants, use the full flavor stuff, more actual plant nutrients in them... better still, they are chelated (ionic charge protected from reacting with something else and getting locked up... Check out the Reference section for good info on chelation, humic-fulvic too)-
.... general dosing is about 1 tsp/qt, or 1T/gal,... such dilution isn't going to send anything sideways with the soil herd... Overdoing it may indeed cause problems!
*edit* -- forgot to add, why carb's? It's a carbon/energy source for the microbes, boosting them makes them do their part a bit more.. breaking down other organic and inorganic substances, cycling various nutrients, changing the form they are in, converting them into forms the plant can ultimately take up and/or form the other microbes can tackle to achieve the same end result....


---> Looking at labels now...
Brer Rabbit full flavor: K 6%, Ca 8%, Mg 8%, Fe 2 %
Grandma's : K 3%; Ca 2%; Mg 2%; Fe 2%

So I bought bought some molasses what is your opinion if you don't mind?

 

[AutoWonders]

The fact is, there are many aspects of growing marijuana where there are two camps, so it simply needs to become a situation of "agree to disagree" and move on. I mainly use Blackstrap molasses as an additive to achieve proper ph when using distilled and filtered water. And I've used it a few times during the last week of the plants life. I don't normally flush, which is another example of two camps that need to "agree to disagree".

 

[Waira]

So I bought bought some molasses what is your opinion if you don't mind?

oooOoo, you got the powdered stuff! I've not used it before Damien, and they don't say what specific type is is...
It's a component in some other products, like Megacrop I bet, you can literally smell it,.... Recharge inoculant has it too... Mind the RH%, it's hydroscopic as fuck! Drop dessicant packs everywhere, stash the main jug and use a smaller one for immediate use,...
My brudda Growshi turned me onto these fine folks, to get powdered fulvic acid... what a deal! It cost more to ship the damn pound, but still, the value is excellent compared to using liquids like Ful-Power (superb stuff), but at $20/qt and fairly dilute, it's hardly a bargain,... That lb. will last me years and years I bet-

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I used the NPK industries Cane Molasses last grow it is easy to work with.

 

[Death The Cultivator]

oooOoo, you got the powdered stuff! I've not used it before Damien, and they don't say what specific type is is...
It's a component in some other products, like Megacrop I bet, you can literally smell it,.... Recharge inoculant has it too... Mind the RH%, it's hydroscopic as fuck! Drop dessicant packs everywhere, stash the main jug and use a smaller one for immediate use,...
My brudda Growshi turned me onto these fine folks, to get powdered fulvic acid... what a deal! It cost more to ship the damn pound, but still, the value is excellent compared to using liquids like Ful-Power (superb stuff), but at $20/qt and fairly dilute, it's hardly a bargain,... That lb. will last me years and years I bet-

I have dessicant packs already for Mega Crop lol.

Customhydronutrients is amazing - really helped me fill the spice cabinet. Fish hydrolysate, potassium Sulfate, silica, humic, etc. Maybe I should make my own blend lol

The real mystery is what kind of micronutrients are present if any at all.