Indoor Dinafem Critical Jack and Auto Seeds Sucker Punch

[Ydijadoit]

I'm all over it. A few MacGyver mods, and I'll see if it does better overnight. I made a deflector for the intakes, that routes the cold incoming air up to the lights, and moved my fan up to the lights, blowing down on the plants... I'll let you know how it works. If things aren't looking better in the AM, I'll post this up in the infirmary. Thanks a lot. That one wasn't even on my radar. If that was the problem, I owe you bigtime! Here's a few pics. Forgive the ballast lines in the pics. I hatem, but it wasn't worth cycling the light for 3 pics
Regards, Kyle

 

[Dudeski]

Cold air in the winter can cause the droop. Are you in a basement or on a slab? Do do have anything on the floor under the plants or tent? Also, if your water is cold that can affect them too.

 

[Unique]

I'm all over it. A few MacGyver mods, and I'll see if it does better overnight. I made a deflector for the intakes, that routes the cold incoming air up to the lights, and moved my fan up to the lights, blowing down on the plants... I'll let you know how it works. If things aren't looking better in the AM, I'll post this up in the infirmary. Thanks a lot. That one wasn't even on my radar. If that was the problem, I owe you bigtime! Here's a few pics. Forgive the ballast lines in the pics. I hatem, but it wasn't worth cycling the light for 3 pics
Regards, Kyle

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it may take a few to several days to see improvements, that problem didnt happen over-nite... it started days ago but just more noticeable now.. It could be from the cool air, but also looks like little clawing going on the one on right side.. the left side about to start transition from looks of that.. the right side don't quite look at transition yet...the left side doesn't look so bad at all.. was the fan blowing at that right side? am only asking coz that can throw me off about that clawing I may or may not be seeing on that, it could be wind burn... or was where cold air coming in right next to that plant or blowing at it? hard tell on this side of pics if clawing or just wind burn..

 

[Ydijadoit]

Cold air in the winter can cause the droop. Are you in a basement or on a slab? Do do have anything on the floor under the plants or tent? Also, if your water is cold that can affect them too.

The floor underneath the reflectix is carpeted, but not super insulated. The closet is in the nose of a fifth wheel, so the floor itself is only about 6" thick. Basically, the plants are in the part of the trailer that hangs over the bed of the truck when towing, if that helps the visual.
I have a temperature probe for my multimeter that I will poke down in the soil this morning, after I've had some coffee, and can think again.

it may take a few to several days to see improvements, that problem didnt happen over-nite... it started days ago but just more noticeable now.. It could be from the cool air, but also looks like little clawing going on the one on right side.. the left side about to start transition from looks of that.. the right side don't quite look at transition yet...the left side doesn't look so bad at all.. was the fan blowing at that right side? am only asking coz that can throw me off about that clawing I may or may not be seeing on that, it could be wind burn... or was where cold air coming in right next to that plant or blowing at it? hard tell on this side of pics if clawing or just wind burn..

Good points,
The fan was in the lower left corner, leaning against the wall, right at the air intakes. It was indeed blowing directly at the CJ (plant on the right). Now the fan is blowing down, from warmer air near the lights. It is a weak little thing, barely more than a glorified pc fan, but combined with the low humidity (20-40%), maybe that was a factor.
I'm kicking myself for not checking the water temp, before I poured it on the plants. Best guess is the water may have been in the high 50's. You can bet I will make sure it's closer to 70f next time!
I wonder if that's why it looked like overwatering? Cold water, cold root zone= not much oxygen to the roots, same as too much water, even though it wasn't? The evaporative cooling of a fan blowing cold air on a damp fabric pot would have only made the situation worse...
Thanks for the help guys, I'll take some more steps to get the root temps up a bit today, and see if that helps.
Meanwhile, I'll pace the floor until they look better!
I love it when non growers say "It's just a weed, it's not hard to grow"
Haha, walk a mile in our shoes, jackazz.
Regards, Kyle

 

[Ydijadoit]

Come on Scamazon Prime. Just ordered a 10x20 seedling heat mat with controller. I'm thinking the mat, in addition to some reflectix wrap around the fabric pots, AND the dummy with the watering can not dumping cold water on the girls, will at least eliminate cold roots as the possible source of my problems.
Regards, Kyle

 

[Unique]

The floor underneath the reflectix is carpeted, but not super insulated. The closet is in the nose of a fifth wheel, so the floor itself is only about 6" thick. Basically, the plants are in the part of the trailer that hangs over the bed of the truck when towing, if that helps the visual.
I have a temperature probe for my multimeter that I will poke down in the soil this morning, after I've had some coffee, and can think again.


Good points,
The fan was in the lower left corner, leaning against the wall, right at the air intakes. It was indeed blowing directly at the CJ (plant on the right). Now the fan is blowing down, from warmer air near the lights. It is a weak little thing, barely more than a glorified pc fan, but combined with the low humidity (20-40%), maybe that was a factor.
I'm kicking myself for not checking the water temp, before I poured it on the plants. Best guess is the water may have been in the high 50's. You can bet I will make sure it's closer to 70f next time!
I wonder if that's why it looked like overwatering? Cold water, cold root zone= not much oxygen to the roots, same as too much water, even though it wasn't? The evaporative cooling of a fan blowing cold air on a damp fabric pot would have only made the situation worse...
Thanks for the help guys, I'll take some more steps to get the root temps up a bit today, and see if that helps.
Meanwhile, I'll pace the floor until they look better!
I love it when non growers say "It's just a weed, it's not hard to grow"
Haha, walk a mile in our shoes, jackazz.
Regards, Kyle

okay, thats what I thought...am glad I asked... some of wind burn (clawing look) may not really improve too much...but over time some them leaves will need come off anyways to let light hit the lower area..If you not know how to prune them, I can let ya know... but just make sure if your taking any leaves off whatever you take off on one side make sure take the other side also

 

[Dudeski]

I think @Waira even recommend bubble wrap around the pots for added insulation.

 

[Ydijadoit]

okay, thats what I thought...am glad I asked... some of wind burn (clawing look) may not really improve too much...but over time some them leaves will need come off anyways to let light hit the lower area..If you not know how to prune them, I can let ya know... but just make sure if your taking any leaves off whatever you take off on one side make sure take the other side alsoView attachment 835966

Thanks for the advice. This is, by far, the most challenging environment I have tried to grow in, as of yet. I hope I didn't hurt them too much. Not looking for quantity here, just high quality, so hopefully I can pull off a good recovery! Store bought bud here is $65 1/8! Asinine, and, as with all 'gubment buds, I am always suspect of what might have been sprayed or poured on them.
I will update as things progress.
Regards, Kyle

 

[Ydijadoit]

I think @Waira even recommend bubble wrap around the pots for added insulation.

That's exactly the direction I was headed. I have some left over fiberglass insulation to put under the drip trays, to keep the pots off the floor, and some left over reflectix to wrap around. Heat mat, and a small bottle of GH Si Armor will be here Wed.
Fingers crossed!
Regards, Kyle

 

[Dudeski]

I use the rigid construction insulation board. Its foam, east to cut.