Dialing In MEGA CROP for Auto's

Let me quote AN directly:

"
Now, off-color leaves, slow growth and low yields because of pH and PPM fluctuations are a thing of the past…
Because pH Perfect GMB contains “pH Perfect” technology which eliminates the need to manually check and adjust pH levels two times per day.
In short, as long as your water falls between 4.5 and 8.5 pH (which is pretty much everyone’s water)-this technology adjusts your pH for you and keeps it buffered there throughout your plants’ growth and bloom phases!
Which means you’ll never have to manually adjust your pH… you’ll never have to worry that your plants aren’t in the premium growing environment… all you have to do is use pH Perfect GMB as directed and the “pH Perfect” technology takes care of all that for you!"

Bullshit!

Now go read what they have to say about chelates, more bullshit! Chelates are only needed for a few specific mirco nutrients, and has nothing to do with NPK, but they intentionally mislead with statements like this:

"During the growth phase: when your plants need nitrogen, calcium and other necessary nutrients, pH Perfect GMB’s chelates force these nutrients directly and immediately into your plants roots, leaves, cells and flowers-greatly speeding the growth phase."


magnesium, sulphur,Boron, copper, Manganese, Molybdenum, and Zinc are what needs chealtion, all other elements and minerals are absorbed as is. Microbes in soil chelate the micronutrients in organics.
An AN uses industry standard EDTA or EDDHA as a chelate, where Greenleaf are the only ones to use amino acids.

It's sad that companies AN this can get away with such crap!




You and others seem to be misunderstanding AN's 'hype,' somehow assuming that 'pH Perfect' involves the pH after mixing being normalized in a set range or pH being adjusted. I don't recall AN making that claim.

Rather (as I understand it), 'pH Perfect' involves the nutrients being higher quality chelate complexes, better bioavailable to and better taken up by the plant over a much wide range of soil pH (not changing the pH) vs. conventional nutes, with the actual pH of the mixed solution rather irrelevant, don't need to check or adjust (presuming you start with low ppm water and don't add too much other salt-based supplements).

As far as I know, adjusting the pH of mixed pH Perfect feed is counter-productive, just wrong, involves adding salts that can only negatively affect the pH Perfect functionality and nutrients' uptake.
 
1g baking soda /20 gal water worked great to help stabilize my ph. The decline is now much slower and much more manegable. Glad I went out to get some because Amazon screwed my ph up order and sent me a msg saying it was undeliverable the day before I was supposed to get it lol.

Awesome tip with the baking soda!! 88 cent a lb was dirt cheap
 
1g baking soda /20 gal water worked great to help stabilize my ph. The decline is now much slower and much more manegable. Glad I went out to get some because Amazon screwed my ph up order and sent me a msg saying it was undeliverable the day before I was supposed to get it lol.

Awesome tip with the baking soda!! 88 cent a lb was dirt cheap

Yep, a little bit goes a long ways for sure! :thumbsup:
 
I never mean to pop anyones bubble of comfort.
I rather share my misgivings and mistakes in the hope others don't fuck up like I have in the past.
It costs nothing to share good info, and in my mind,....make the average human a better person, and my world a better place.

PH adjustments,
If you adjust your feed with bi-carb will it work (on paper, yes).
Will it work properly as expected (NO),...
Why, its a short term fix.
This will fool the user into believing, once the nute mix is made,.....I went from 6.3 to 5.9.....all is good dump!

Well, guess what happens in an hour or two,...or two days later,...????
You'r quick fix,...didn't stabilize.....so your soil PH is nothing like you'r expecting with the 5.9 feed.

Let me repeat the mistake most make (AS I HAVE WHEN I STARTED!!!!),...
The bi-carb will lower your ph, but only in the short term.
What you really want is stability.
The only way to do so is ( unfortunitly), with something a little more powerful, but stable...
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Also,...don't dump your PS up or DOWN directly into your mix.....bad,...bad...
Make a small volume mix of a cup or so with water.....then add to your feed.....:thumbsup:

Next time you make a coffee....
Add coffee to the cream in the cup,.....not cream to the hot coffee....
Ah fuck,...look at that!.....
Bet it won't taste the same!!....
(Promise not to tell anyone ok??)...:headbang:
 
I never mean to pop anyones bubble of comfort.
I rather share my misgivings and mistakes in the hope others don't fuck up like I have in the past.
It costs nothing to share good info, and in my mind,....make the average human a better person, and my world a better place.

PH adjustments,
If you adjust your feed with bi-carb will it work (on paper, yes).
Will it work properly as expected (NO),...
Why, its a short term fix.
This will fool the user into believing, once the nute mix is made,.....I went from 6.3 to 5.9.....all is good dump!

Well, guess what happens in an hour or two,...or two days later,...????
You'r quick fix,...didn't stabilize.....so your soil PH is nothing like you'r expecting with the 5.9 feed.

Let me repeat the mistake most make (AS I HAVE WHEN I STARTED!!!!),...
The bi-carb will lower your ph, but only in the short term.
What you really want is stability.
The only way to do so is ( unfortunitly), with something a little more powerful, but stable...
View attachment 1285378
Also,...don't dump your PS up or DOWN directly into your mix.....bad,...bad...
Make a small volume mix of a cup or so with water.....then add to your feed.....:thumbsup:

Next time you make a coffee....
Add coffee to the cream in the cup,.....not cream to the hot coffee....
Ah fuck,...look at that!.....
Bet it won't taste the same!!....
(Promise not to tell anyone ok??)...:headbang:

Sodium bicarbonate is for PH up, not down.... just sayin :toke: Do you think this still applies?
 
I never mean to pop anyones bubble of comfort.
I rather share my misgivings and mistakes in the hope others don't fuck up like I have in the past.
It costs nothing to share good info, and in my mind,....make the average human a better person, and my world a better place.

PH adjustments,
If you adjust your feed with bi-carb will it work (on paper, yes).
Will it work properly as expected (NO),...
Why, its a short term fix.
This will fool the user into believing, once the nute mix is made,.....I went from 6.3 to 5.9.....all is good dump!

Well, guess what happens in an hour or two,...or two days later,...????
You'r quick fix,...didn't stabilize.....so your soil PH is nothing like you'r expecting with the 5.9 feed.

Let me repeat the mistake most make (AS I HAVE WHEN I STARTED!!!!),...
The bi-carb will lower your ph, but only in the short term.
What you really want is stability.
The only way to do so is ( unfortunitly), with something a little more powerful, but stable...
View attachment 1285378
Also,...don't dump your PS up or DOWN directly into your mix.....bad,...bad...
Make a small volume mix of a cup or so with water.....then add to your feed.....:thumbsup:

Next time you make a coffee....
Add coffee to the cream in the cup,.....not cream to the hot coffee....
Ah fuck,...look at that!.....
Bet it won't taste the same!!....
(Promise not to tell anyone ok??)...:headbang:

I get what you mean. I used to use b/soda (up) and vinegar (down) with hempy buckets or when hand watering coco, and they worked great. But had to stop using them with Autopots because i would be adding them every day and pH just wouldn't stabilize. in the reservoir.. but it could be my water source though.
 
Sodium bicarbonate is for PH up, not down.... just sayin :toke: Do you think this still applies?

Too many beers tonight after supper....sorry...
You're right...
But ,yes...up....or down,..the principals remain the same.

Proof to this would be to do a soil PH test, 1 hour after feed,....6 hours later,...and 3 days later...
Long term is what we want right?...stability for the plant...

The best part is,....and I'm looking for my proper words,....but you'll get my point....

More stable soil needs A LOT OF FUCK UP to destabilize.
And this is what you want,...rock solid PH,...so even if you screw up in a PH mix,....the soil will be forgiving because it is PH stable.
This shit making sense ??:shrug:

So all of these lockout issues many live can be avoided by following this simple approach.
 
@4d-Rock @Kyote

Well then, I am not alone...:bow:

My point was that, the better we can control conditions,....this gives us more bredth in screwing up....
We feed according to whats on the bottle right?
And the bottle says....blah blah blah....

Well that is fine and dandy, providing PH is spot on for the plant (Which is a moving target).
Soil PH is what makes the biggest difference, and soil PH stability is the holy grail of growing.
Not nute PPM.

Many are dick wagging claiming they feed at 900 and 1200ppm....(so what is that suppose to mean?)
If your ph is off, all the ppm in the world is useless...
Better yet, you'r gonna get calmag issues...
Ok, lets not go there...:nono::doh:
 
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