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hmm their coverage is a bit small for a 4x4 tent.
Also they are different sizes and got different coverage so only these 2 could be bit low in terms of light output.
But maybe i am wrong. Let's see some pics when the lights are hanging. I would have ordered some COB's or QB's to fill that tent hehe
going from the wattage to the wall there around 600w and i did read a lot of reviews on both lights . the cobs i looked at were more expensive plus the output par isnt that much different i will show some pics when i hang them i just thought id ask
 
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Do I need em but I got some great plans for my custom home made green house imgoing to build for next year's grow season ,I think out of all the plants I have ever grown this one will highlight em all I will be able to have fans intake an out ,I have already started saving for this dream I will also showcase a 50gallon or bigger living coco coir grow the biggest and first of it's kind being most organic coco coir grows and there very few focus on bottled nutes ,I focus on microbial populations an add things to sustain organic breakdown ,and feed the microbes using nothing commercial all homemade teas the first of it's kind .
 
going from the wattage to the wall there around 600w and i did read a lot of reviews on both lights . the cobs i looked at were more expensive plus the output par isnt that much different i will show some pics when i hang them i just thought id ask

dont get me wrong, i dont wanted to make these lights down. They look good and got a nice output.
Maybe 2 of that 900W light would fill the tent completely. But that one 600W will maybe destroy the even light distribution. also it has a different output than the 900 so it is more like a mix between a big and a smaller light.

haha maybe it will look like a ballsack where one ball is bigger :D :D
 
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If I were an autoflower where would I
grow...

I'd grow in full sunlight away from the snow...

In a field near a brook with birds and bees..

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I'd make huge buds with sticky leaves,

If I were an autoflower where would I grow..

I'll grow where you put me, that's all I know...

I don't need a timer, I just want to grow.

Put me in the ground or in a pot it's no big deal it's really not.

Hps, the sun or LED

Inside or out it's the same to me, once I start growing it's all up to me..

My clock starts ticking as soon as I wake..

Unless I'm not an auto but some hacks fake..

Pull my leaves and cut my top, I might slow down but I won't stop..

If I were an autoflower where would I grow....

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That's all fine then. So, you say: the breeder should go on breeding to get a stable autoflowering plant. This still doesn't prove that all seeds marketed as semi-autoflowering are not stable. Let alone that these are all F1. How can we know that it is all F1? You can't tell by looking at a seed, I imagine?
I saw the chat earlier thought id put my theory out there.
If you cross an auto x photo no matter what u do even if you breed away from the "auto gene" the auto will become dominate. People who read about breeding will tell you the auto gene is a recessive trait because u dont see autos in the first gen offspring but this is true for other traits like smell, color, structure but it is not for what people like to call the "auto gene" you can see autos in F1 generations and but what autoflowering actually is, is this a Mutation that be comes dominate, which = Evolution. A mutation that is positive for the well being of the plant will become dominate and the plant will evolve so that all of its offspring have that gene but seeing there is no such evidence of an auto gene i say we cant keep callin it that. There is proof of an "flowering" gene that triggers a plant to flower once its senses a change in light hours, it is far more efficient for a plant to turn off the flowering response gene than it is to create something from nothing you have to GM a cannabis plant for it to create a new gene and you cant say auto breeders are doing that with crossing the very pollen the plant is producing on its own. Photo growers will tell you photo sensitive and autoflower are two completely different gene pools when there is no evidence to support that either. Early day cannabis was wild growing with semi low thc % same with the first autoflowers it took breeders to take a afghan x thai x mexico to create a trainwreck or a india x brazil to get a white widow. Theres early photo strains that where F20+ before they were ready. It took the same with breeding autos but since grow so fast it too half to the time to reach the level they are now and since photoperiod plants were already so advance cross breeding more of them only help further and created better autos. If there is anyone that can show me a straight ruderalis plant i will give u free pack of seeds. to my knowledge it doesnt exist All rudy came's a native photo plant the went auto on its own to improve its cycle. You can not take a semi auto or fast flower plant to F5 and expect them to stay 100% photo sensitive. FV and superautos are about(key word) the same thing and the only way to produce a steady stock is to take a female auto reverse it and cross it to a clone of your mother photo plant and do this over and over again when u need new stock. Sweet seeds have mastered this they are great at what they do they only work with fems so being the great breeders they are they can do the same cross over and over again with little to no difference between batches.
Look at it like this you cross an
auto x photo
F1= Fast Versions
F2= SuperAuto
F3= Full Auto or 2nd Gen Super auto depending on breeders selection
F4-F5 no matter what your going to get plants that flower on their own. I know i might rattle some cages with that but it makes way more sense than that what we have been told for years, now auto gene no such thing.
 
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