New Grower Can you LST a flowering plant!?!?!?

probably do a tad defoliation

Did you say Defoliation?
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That is two Tyrone Specials at day 37.
There must be some Autoflowers that don't tolerate stress, but the 4 Mephisto strains I have tried love it.

They are well into flower and I just cut off another main branch today. 4 branches = 4 colas. Should be enough for any girl.
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Low stress training is too much work, cutting is easier for me. Snip snip, done. Tying knots is tricky after a 3 martini lunch.

@hb5_darthkush Your plants should tolerate LOTS of LST. If you LST too hard and crack a stem...LST becomes supercropping,
that is fun too.
 
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You can "continue" LST in flower, but not "start" it.....during flowering the branches and main stem become more rigid.

As others said, you can try and work with the branches, but I'm afraid it's too late to start bending the main stem.....
 
Low stress training is too much work, cutting is easier.
Your plants should tolerate LOTS of LST. If you LST too hard and crack a stem...you just supercropped, that is fun too.

Is it really so much work? When I LST, I use coated copper wires which I prepared long time ago in different lenghts. They last forever, because you can twist wire in any form you want and they do not wear off. Airpots need no additional preparation, because of many side holes.

But overall, I am not sure if LST helps very much comparing to normally grown plant. Plants that I LST create many inner branches that want to reach main stem height and everything becomes more crowded. But that might not happen just because of LST, I do not know for sure.

Now I have two accidentally topped plants. Happened around day 25 when I had attached wire one floor too high where stem hadnt been hard enough. Two accidents in 14 days. Sick. I can say that I am quite satisfied with one of them, but second one will be poor yielder, despite creating many main stems instead of a single one what looked very promising. So I do not know, I would not do it again.

But that was early topping. Seems that topping or breaking main stem in late flowering does not bring any trouble. Not long ago I broke main stem of too long plant and buds turned upwards in 12 hours. I could set the light lower and closer but not sure if that had helped with yield. Plants are so different and it is so hard to tell.

Generally, autos are very sensitive and need special care. Their short life does not allow any spare time to try this and that, if one does not know what he is doing, yields might be very disappointing. Any twist, cut, trim affect plants inner chemistry and how a specific plant reacts is a question of strain, pheno, growing environment, etc.

So we mostly guess and try this and that but not many people are able to show comparative grows which would prove that this and that really work in terms of final dry yield which is one of the most important things for all of us here around. And even if one sees very good results in somebody elses grow using LST or similar techniques, that does not offer any warranty that exactly the same techniques would work for him in his particular environment and with his skills also.

Growing is hard to learn. And questions rarely have simple, one fits all answers.

Good luck!
 
Is it really so much work?

Not really, it is about the same. That was my flippant attempt at humor. In my crowded grow room I find cutting easier than tying stuff with string. I like your copper wire idea very much, like growing Bonsai.

if one does not know what he is doing

That is me! :biggrin: This is my first attempt at extreme pruning. I am a bit surprised that it is working so well.
I am doing it for 3 reasons:
  • shape the canopy to my crappy CFLs
  • harvest only colas, no popcorn buds, no weak lower branches.
  • fun! I enjoy manicuring the plant more than bending, and experimenting with cuttings is fun.
I am not growing for yield so I have more flexibility.
My silly style might not suit everyone, but it does show how much abuse Autos can tolerate. :biggrin:
 
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Not really, it is about the same. That was my flippant attempt at humor. In my crowded grow room I find cutting easier than tying stuff with string. I like your copper wire idea very much, like growing Bonsai.



That is me! This is my first attempt at extreme pruning. I am a bit surprised that it is working so well.
I am doing it for 3 reasons:
  • shape the canopy to my crappy CFLs
  • harvest only colas, no popcorn buds, no weak lower branches.
  • fun! I enjoy manicuring the plant more than bending, and experimenting with the cuttings is fun.
I am not growing for yield so I have more flexibility.
My silly style might not suit everyone, but it does show how much abuse Autos can tolerate. :biggrin:

If your grows satisfy you, everything is just fine. You are the only one to judge your yields and what works for you.

If one does not pay much attention on yield, decisions get much easier. But if one does pay attention how much harvest brings, there is always a question what would have happened if something hasnt been done. Questions like: "Is this plant growing slower as I would like her to do because of trimming, cutting, etc.? are on daily basis.

So if one just wants to see, how much a plant can survive, cutting is easy. But if one wants to get better yield with these cuts, answers about what to do and how much of that to do are not so easy any more.

Generally I can say that decisions about LST, cutting and stuff like that get more and more important when we have higher expectations, especially when targeting 100g+ per plant or even worse, 200g+.

Good Luck!
 
Yes you can……you can also super-crop right up until a couple of weeks before harvest…that ruderalis in the genes is as tough as…. it's a word that starts in F an ends in K… Give 'em hell watch 'em swell……When people started growing autos they thought they were pussy… not so... they bring very hardy genetics, this is a plant used to living in quite severe conditions.. I've abused them, hard…. given enough light and feed. they always deliver.
 
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