Thanks JM, whatever it is the plant seems to be growing fine just odd, i've heard people say buku is known to hermi so i'm watching her close. whats driving my nuts now is the one gnat in my cabinet that won't die. i've only seen one but i can't catch him and now he's mocking me. i've got some glue traps at work but they are the white box kind, would yellow ones work better for gnat?