Nutrients Biobizz nutes Day 17?

[StevOrganic]

i think theres a few things going on here,or a combination of a few things.
burnt tips,and the underneath leaves are real dark green with a sheen to them.maybe the ph dipped outa range for a bit to.maybe ya just need a bottle of cal/mag like most led growers seem to.
soil tends to be a more forgiving medium.as in if a dwc goes dry the roots can die in a few hours.with soil we tend to be a week behind things.eg a hungry plant,pale green/yellow so we feed it,but as the nutes take 5-7 days to turn from nutes into plant food,we are a week behind.
coco/dwc etc has a happy ph range same as soil.well its not the same,soil ph is a tad higher.
when a plant goes outside the ph range it more or less goes on hungerstike to certain nutes,so ya can feed 10ml/L of grow to a hungry plant and it just wont eat it.same for cal/mag.but even with a happy ph plant if theres not enough cal/mag in the soil/water/nutes,ya gonna need a bottle.organic hmmm think ya need proper orgainic soil and water or teas only,lots of soil building that can take a year....see hecno and eyesonfire for some amazing stuff with soils.
sometimes to much N can lock out hmm is it cal or mag its one of em or maybe both as they come in the same bottle.
leaves never or rarely repair themselves.
the plant is well into flower so need more of the bloom and less of the grow.
my buck eejit way of thinking is soil starts off +/- 0.5 away from 6.5 ph............if my feeds in are somewhere between 6.8 ish week 1 plain water and week 9 5.8ph ish....the soil will allways be happy.
thinking any damage to plant was last week when it went a bit wonky,and its showing up now.keep a close eye for anymore effected leaves.it may be time to get a bottle of cal.mag.
more pics please for some pros to have a ganzie at as i could be completely wrong and talkin pure tripe @Arthur @HighnDry
good luck n keep er lit

Thanks man I popped into my local grow shop and showed one of the guys some pics and pointed out where on the plant the issue were and had a chat he was very confident that it’s excess nutes and that makes complete sense as it’s just a week ago when I went a little too high with the dosage of nutes.

What you say about the ph sounds spot on I really don’t think it is related to ph as my feed was always in the right range between 6 and 6.5 and plant has looked perfectly healthy throughout apart from the deep green shiny leaves due to being a bit over zealous with the N rich nutes.

Its very easy to freak out about every little thing when growing it’s all starting to come together and making more sense day by day this grow has thought me a lot so far thanks for all the help

I also realised for sure what caused my new seedling to be yellow I just realised that I soaked the soil with my soft tap water 7.3ph when I started in solo cup completely locked out Fe as it only got that plain water up until day 19 so I’m hopping after a few feeds of nutes with a ph around 6.3 it will start to uptake again fingers crossed.

 

[StevOrganic]

Came across this thread from another forum The two feeds I gave her with high volume of nutes was at a ph of 6 and 6.1 this must have caused the ph to go out of range, every day is a school day

Question: After adding the nutes to the water, what to do?

Quote " BioBizz says if your ph is between 7.0 and 7.3 it's just perfect. Don't change anything! Feed it to the plants and the soil will buffer the rest. "
Ok. I believe that it works just fine like that as I was never measuring ph.
STILL the question is: what would happen if you were using organic ph-down like canna ph down or earthjuice to drop this 7.3 nutrient solution to 6.3 from the start, before feeding? Would this be counter-productive for getting the right ph or actually help the soil getting it right faster? It's hard to tell because these ph meters in soil can't always be really trusted and opinions vastly differ.

Answer: Again, a very good question. First of all: always measure the pH, measuring = knowledge. Now here is how Biobizz works:

Our soil has a pH of 6,1-6,2. This is the perfect pH for using our liquid products. When you water the plants, the Biobizz products start to decompose, with the help of the micro-life in the soil, the organic material breaks down and the pH always stay naturally at 6,1-6,2. So if the water you give has a pH of for instance 7,0-7,3, the micro-life will ensure the pH in the soil will drop to the desired 6,1-6,2. This is why you never had problems, because you let nature do it’s work.

Now, the micro-life can lower the pH to 6,1-6,2, but if you feed water with a pH lower then 6,1-6,2 you can have a problem. The micro-life can lower the pH, but not increase it. So basically: as long as your water, mixed with Biobizz is above 6,2-6,3 ( give it a bit of margin ) you are just fine. Of course, when you have tab water with a pH of 9,0 ( which happens ), you will have an issue anyway. Try to avoid the use of pH correction products. Try to rely on the micro-life to do the work.Non-organic pH products will damage the micro-life we rely on so much.

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

its been a while from i read the bobizz site,its very good,i remembered a few things,and forgot a good bit to.
i think...or reading between the lines biobizz say water between 7.3-6.3 and you be ok.
chem ph up and down are super concentrated acids/alkilines will pretty much blind ya if ya get it in the eye so no wonder it kills microbes.
the chemical calmag i use kills the micro life to but nowhere near up/down i think.but i tried a grow not that long ago without calmag...it popped up about week 3,4 i chased and chased it till plant was chopped and never caught it up.
earthjuice is that not a usa thing can ya get it here ? defo organic as much as possible is the best way (im lazy i spend 7 mins once a day in the cupboard) i dip under 6.3 at the end but im to stupid to do anything about it.
feeding at 6.5 organicaly i guess would just give the microbes an easy time of it.
baking soda why i got talc stuck in my head.

 

[StevOrganic]

its been a while from i read the bobizz site,its very good,i remembered a few things,and forgot a good bit to.
i think...or reading between the lines biobizz say water between 7.3-6.3 and you be ok.
chem ph up and down are super concentrated acids/alkilines will pretty much blind ya if ya get it in the eye so no wonder it kills microbes.
the chemical calmag i use kills the micro life to but nowhere near up/down i think.but i tried a grow not that long ago without calmag...it popped up about week 3,4 i chased and chased it till plant was chopped and never caught it up.
earthjuice is that not a usa thing can ya get it here ? defo organic as much as possible is the best way (im lazy i spend 7 mins once a day in the cupboard) i dip under 6.3 at the end but im to stupid to do anything about it.
feeding at 6.5 organicaly i guess would just give the microbes an easy time of it.
baking soda why i got talc stuck in my head.

I just purchased biobizz ph+ and ph- €12 for both bottles and it doesn’t disrupt the microlife going do some experimenting next grow going to keep the ph of the feed between the “ideal” range 6.3-6.5 throughout going to grow the same stain a few times get to know the plant and master growing it plus I really like the smoke from nyc diesel

I will try avoid adding anything to the grow that isn’t organic including calmag my tap water is good contains lime as the kettle scales up and if necessary I will add some Epsom salts.

My water is filtered to remove impurities including chlorine but doesn’t remove minerals so I’ll keep going with it and will only add when absolutely necessary but if this grow is anything to go by I probably won’t need to add as up until day 50 there was not even one funky looking leaf at all apart from the few dying ones at the very bottom of plant.

Out of curiosity the other day I actually put baking soda In water and tested ph and it dropped it a couple points I always thought baking soda and baking powder was pretty much the same thing obviously not maybe in baking

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

a scaley kettle should have loads of cal then but the tea will ne rotten
my first 6 grows were disasters,was near a year before i had anything that made it to a jar and wasnt smoked in 2 days :smoking:im still a shit grower,ive learnt next to nothing,but i have 7 years of doing very similar things to plants with very similar items.
your doing better than you think its like learning to ride a bike.find your balnace avoid falling off,a bit of practice,then do tricks.first few grows its more about avoiding disater keeping it down the middle and get a harvest in.start another plant....and with a bit of luck by the time its ready to harvest you still smoking the first plant.
weight is just a number,if ya dont run out its irrelivent
she has some good recipes