all photos are not "potent" anymore than autos are. Its how well the breeder develops the strains they are working. there is a lot of SLOPPY breeding out there. The Ruderalis in a properly bred auto is almost a genetic afterthought. There are many autos that are every bit as potent as 98% of photo periods. In the early days of the development of autos, yes, many were mild compared to today's strains. But I've had my share of pretty average photo period weed also.
And I grow both and I breed my own strains.
And I grow both and I breed my own strains.
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To chime in on this cconversation I was a photo grower for years and then switched to autos so that I could have plants at all stages of growth in the same grow space and yes most photos are stronger than most autos but there are plenty of exceptions. Both have their pros and cons. For me the benifits of autos are more suited for my grows and with strains like double grape and other super potent varieties its a win win. But going from photos to autos does have a learning curve. Autos are the future of cannabis growing and are only getting better by the day.
Its been a few years since Ive smoked a photoperiod plant . All I grow these days are Autos for my own and my Wifes consumption. I honestly cant complain at all about the potency of autos, . If they were not as strong id just load a bit more in the vape but as i said i dont notice any difference. The convenience far outweighs any subjective perception of lower strength. I do feel that photos tend to have a stronger smell though but that may just be my harvesting .
I did an impromptu experiment on this recently.
I grow autos to make edibles for sleep, but notice the potency as they kick in.
I recently visited AZ without taking any edibles along.
I got the desired medication from 80 mg of thc from dispensary gummies.
That compares with the usual 3/4 gram decarbed herb baked into my homemade edibles.
(I have several years of experience with auto edibles.)
If my wild estimate is close, and the dispensary is correct, then 750 mg of my autos contains about 80 mg thc.
That equates to about 11% potency, which is about what is expected crossing a nearly 0% ruderalis with a 20% photoperiod.
But certainly breeding can improve this.
Several years ago I bought a tCheck device to measure this, but could never get it to work right with edibles.
I grow autos to make edibles for sleep, but notice the potency as they kick in.
I recently visited AZ without taking any edibles along.
I got the desired medication from 80 mg of thc from dispensary gummies.
That compares with the usual 3/4 gram decarbed herb baked into my homemade edibles.
(I have several years of experience with auto edibles.)
If my wild estimate is close, and the dispensary is correct, then 750 mg of my autos contains about 80 mg thc.
That equates to about 11% potency, which is about what is expected crossing a nearly 0% ruderalis with a 20% photoperiod.
But certainly breeding can improve this.
Several years ago I bought a tCheck device to measure this, but could never get it to work right with edibles.
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The question is largely meaningless as it's cultivar dependent. Growers get 26-30+ % THC regularly with contemporary autos. Certainly, there are more high THC cultivars in photo format than autos, but there are more photo cultivars overall.
And this is based on the (IMHO) flawed assumption that THC alone drives "potency" - however that's defined. Terpenes (and probably other classes of organic compounds like phenols and flavonoids) are involved too. That's why from my personal subjective experience certain cultivars have a stronger effect on me (i.e, are more "potent") that others despite having lower THC levels. IMHO, YMMV, etc.
And this is based on the (IMHO) flawed assumption that THC alone drives "potency" - however that's defined. Terpenes (and probably other classes of organic compounds like phenols and flavonoids) are involved too. That's why from my personal subjective experience certain cultivars have a stronger effect on me (i.e, are more "potent") that others despite having lower THC levels. IMHO, YMMV, etc.
Hit the nail on the head there, it's all so subjective! My favorite strain is someone else's least favorite and so on.
I have grown some amazing cannabis both auto and photo, and some not so amazing cannabis again both auto and photo. Genetics plays a huge role, and environment. I think the old lame autos that used to prevail in 2012-2014/15 are not so prevalent anymore.
People use much stronger plants for their autoflowering genes now than they had available in those times. It makes sense that this would have the same effect that selective breeding had on photo cannabis from the 60s-80s, lots of potency increases occurred as people selected for it over generations.
I think we're going to need to start introducing wider genetic diversity to many of our favorite cannabis strains so we can retain the qualities we love for future generations.
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I started growing Mephisto in 2013/14 and a super dank potent auto i got as a freebie in 2013 lead me to joining AFN. Dutch Passions think different changed me for good that auto will make you parinoid in public if you smoke to much. A lot more people have seen what auto flowers can do since then hence we have a plethora of beautiful Autoflowers now.
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Working against a tolerance curve of 60 years, (First grow 1965) after 50 years of photoperiod grows, on and off. joined AFN 2011. and grow 95%
Autos now. In recent years i had two tents and did photo and auto at the same time. ALL were good. potency equal . for indoors under controlled conditions, Autos are the best. for me. time wise and to beat the curve.
Autos now. In recent years i had two tents and did photo and auto at the same time. ALL were good. potency equal . for indoors under controlled conditions, Autos are the best. for me. time wise and to beat the curve.
The TD was one starter for a whole bunch of great breeders to go after. seymour-buds grow in dwc was (and is) benchmark and "art at best practice". That's why there's still a td lovers thread lurking . Eversince there was no question about potency. Other great strains took off too at the time, all potent enough to compete with photos at least.
'nuff is 'nuff.
"Pro Tip:"
if one really wants to know what sheer potency does, try a watercure of what you have at hand - bangs head, tastes like *don't care, but isn't tasty* - no terpenes, nearly no smell (one would identify as weed). The washout reduces size to about 1/3, so the THC concentration rises on the buds per weiht. If you handle it as you would do with normal weed, you have a ~triple dose.
Me myself an I can't handle that for too long, so again...
'nuff is 'nuff.
but i like to have some watercure at hand to go stealth mode and dose it accordingly
Another thing I like about growing.
'nuff is 'nuff.
"Pro Tip:"
if one really wants to know what sheer potency does, try a watercure of what you have at hand - bangs head, tastes like *don't care, but isn't tasty* - no terpenes, nearly no smell (one would identify as weed). The washout reduces size to about 1/3, so the THC concentration rises on the buds per weiht. If you handle it as you would do with normal weed, you have a ~triple dose.
Me myself an I can't handle that for too long, so again...
'nuff is 'nuff.
but i like to have some watercure at hand to go stealth mode and dose it accordingly
Another thing I like about growing.Similar threads
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