Autoflower Asian Haze Test Grow

[Northern Grower]

lol true enough but did some one not get a kickback on yours wiz and is there any advice on avoiding your genetics getting ripped like not shipping to holland?
pm me if need be i just dont fancy going into 2 years of this to have it happen to me

sorry if its off topic

Fem seeds.. That's about all you can do. It is inevitable. Your seed will be copied. Which is why you need to hit the ground running. Put one out, and when you do your already working on your next one.

Everyone always gets into a huff when i talk about banks stealing genes.. It happens ALL the time..

Most breeders figure after you work a line past F3 you can call it your own.

 

[FullDuplex]

Thank you LBH for the back ground my friend, you didnt have to go into that detail but at the same time like you said you are the father if the auto haze, for the time that i have been active on the net you are the only one who i have ever seen claim the haze as a true auto. everything else is a hyb and thats all.

Bailer and i talked about the genetics in your hazes and i think that you have told me a time or to about them as well and i remembered that they were away from LR genes just wasn't sure how far they were. Seems to be that the breeding that you have done has eliminated the smell and bud formations that i speak of and if i can too do that then i will feel alot better about my breeding

I have some of your hazes on the way here mate. Soon as i get them there going to get a germ. I hope that i do them justice my friend.

 

[agito]

I suppose even with fem seeds they can still be self fertilised as well

 

[Nelson]

I totally agree with you I want to point out that fem seeds are no gaurantee that someone won't grow out a fem treat it with 200 ppm or better a couple of times and then use the male that forms to breed it to another fem from seed. Voila it is copied.

Fem seeds.. That's about all you can do. It is inevitable. Your seed will be copied. Which is why you need to hit the ground running. Put one out, and when you do your already working on your next one.

Everyone always gets into a huff when i talk about banks stealing genes.. It happens ALL the time..

Most breeders figure after you work a line past F3 you can call it your own.

 

[Northern Grower]

I totally agree with you I want to point out that fem seeds are no gaurantee that someone won't grow out a fem treat it with 200 ppm or better a couple of times and then use the male that forms to breed it to another fem from seed. Voila it is copied.

You are correct mate! There is nothing you can do that will fully protect your work. You can breed with fem seeds, even finding a better mom than you might think. Just like fem seeds can make hermi a dom trait you can also make the genes you WANT dom in a plant.. So nothing is safe to a skilled breeder.

 

[Mossy]

I totally agree with you I want to point out that fem seeds are no gaurantee
that someone won't grow out a fem treat it with 200 ppm or better a couple of
times and then use the male that forms to breed it to another fem from seed.
Voila it is copied.

This is what we talked about for the Black Dragon Nelson..coz you know soon as she is out she will be ripped...
But..
LBH say that Feminising the seed screws the genetic up so much for Breeding..

that it would take a Reputable Breeder probably 2 years to put it back to the Original form.
so..
the banks doing the Ripping will be selling inferior crosses.. 'Fraid it's the Best we can Hope for...
no such thing as Gentlemen Gardeners in the Canna world..

 

[agito]

according to dna and others feming does not effect the genepool and some companys only use fems for breeding as judging the male is not an issue i would have loved to cross my chocs with the dragon for the color but i have mi5 and aa now

but with fem seeds they would not get a male so could only rip fem seeds

 

[La Buena Hierba]

Thank you LBH for the back ground my friend, you didnt have to go into that detail but at the same time like you said you are the father if the auto haze, for the time that i have been active on the net you are the only one who i have ever seen claim the haze as a true auto. everything else is a hyb and thats all.
.

yes we old skool internetters i long time on the net looking for auto Haze breeders never seeing one !!!

Bailer and i talked about the genetics in your hazes and i think that you have told me a time or to about them as well and i remembered that they were away from LR genes just wasn't sure how far they were. Seems to be that the breeding that you have done has eliminated the smell and bud formations that i speak of and if i can too do that then i will feel alot better about my breeding
.

indeed it takes a lot of selecting too and time !!
all breeders that work on autoflowers breed back too the autoflowers .
i dint do that i select for the autoflowering ones from the cross (AF X non AF) and breed back too the non autoflower to stable the type of the non AF plant
again this takes long time and selecting
people that will try too do this way now will be long way from my work like i sey i cross my LBH haze too more haze;s now ,
so i will ty too let us autoflowernetworkers on top by releasing best and beter every time
ps you and Bailer talk about me!!! hoop only good? lol

I have some of your hazes on the way here mate. Soon as i get them there going to get a germ. I hope that i do them justice my friend.

they have Thaipan in them i hoop they do well for you
i dint test them yet and i dont know how this thaipand in there will be bring out the Haze
keep us updated my friend

peace

 

[FullDuplex]

sorry if its off topic

I was just about to key in on that and thank you for stopping it.

dont want bailers thread lost in babble

 

[harvestreaper]

its an old problem with breeding weather it be horses dogs plants watever certain types will always steal others hardwork an put there name on it ,in dogs its called paper hanging and there no way of stopping it ,,it can be controlled by being very selective with who you let your stock out to but if you release stock to public you will always get some that will tell the truth an some that will steal the work the good thing is there always few that value true breding mmore than money or glory and will give credit were it due