Autoflower Asian Haze Test Grow
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Northern Grower
OGwanKushObie
Should be chop time for the one shortly. She has been getting her flush. Calyxes are looking like they should.
I will get another update up maybe tomorrow. I want to look at the trichs, so i need to get some photos.
Yeah it rooted so fast too. I have had a hell of a time rooting PK clones, but this thing put down roots in days. I had the thought that it might be good for some outdoors this summer, if i can keep it vegging. Though i don't think it is going to. It is really pre flowering, all the nodes are VERY variegated.. I'll get a pic of it... We'll see what happens.
My intrest with it is to test out some feming ideas. If you timed everything you could test mothers, and use clones to produce female pollen. That way your not having to do as much progeny testing to see if you chose a good plant to turn into a pollen donor.
Seing how large JM and rip's clones got. You'd still be able to use the idea for breeding. Auto clones don't do much for yield, but breeding it still has a use I think.
I'm trying to root some black dragon's right now. To see if I can root clones from dwarf size plants too.
I will get another update up maybe tomorrow. I want to look at the trichs, so i need to get some photos.
Yeah it rooted so fast too. I have had a hell of a time rooting PK clones, but this thing put down roots in days. I had the thought that it might be good for some outdoors this summer, if i can keep it vegging. Though i don't think it is going to. It is really pre flowering, all the nodes are VERY variegated.. I'll get a pic of it... We'll see what happens.
My intrest with it is to test out some feming ideas. If you timed everything you could test mothers, and use clones to produce female pollen. That way your not having to do as much progeny testing to see if you chose a good plant to turn into a pollen donor.
Seing how large JM and rip's clones got. You'd still be able to use the idea for breeding. Auto clones don't do much for yield, but breeding it still has a use I think.
I'm trying to root some black dragon's right now. To see if I can root clones from dwarf size plants too.
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Trifid
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:booya: Cant wait Bailer to see your haze hanging up.. Does she have a peppery smell yet?
I have a question for you - the BlackDragons, what level of resistance do they have to the cold? With all that winter color, it appears they might be well equipt for cold conditions.. Is this the case or is it just a pre-genetic disposal to anthrocyanin production? It is said in the botanical circles that these compounds which atrribute to the color of these plants, that they are an adaptive response for attracting pollinators (maybe it was to attract us haha..). I can see their point here but from my understanding (correct me if i am wrong with this) in photosynthetic pigmentation, anthocyanins have been shown to behave as a polaroid barrier that protects the plant cells from light-intensity damage (such as the light during the winter solstice period) by diverting the photosynthestic process to the blue-green and UV light specturm and thereby protecting the tissues from photo-inhibition. What's your's and Wiz's interpretation of this? Is it indeed related to adaptions to cold climates or near artic-type thriving? or is it just a coincidental genetic addition to the plant not related to winter sun exposure?
They are also powerful antioxidants according the wikipediea, didn't know that - would be great addition to a juice.. yum yum
I have a question for you - the BlackDragons, what level of resistance do they have to the cold? With all that winter color, it appears they might be well equipt for cold conditions.. Is this the case or is it just a pre-genetic disposal to anthrocyanin production? It is said in the botanical circles that these compounds which atrribute to the color of these plants, that they are an adaptive response for attracting pollinators (maybe it was to attract us haha..). I can see their point here but from my understanding (correct me if i am wrong with this) in photosynthetic pigmentation, anthocyanins have been shown to behave as a polaroid barrier that protects the plant cells from light-intensity damage (such as the light during the winter solstice period) by diverting the photosynthestic process to the blue-green and UV light specturm and thereby protecting the tissues from photo-inhibition. What's your's and Wiz's interpretation of this? Is it indeed related to adaptions to cold climates or near artic-type thriving? or is it just a coincidental genetic addition to the plant not related to winter sun exposure?
They are also powerful antioxidants according the wikipediea, didn't know that - would be great addition to a juice.. yum yum
Northern Grower
OGwanKushObie
Well considering most indicas have some kind of purple, and it's so reccessive in allot of sativa's. You could make the assumption it's related to cold climate and light intentisy. Anything grown in the kush region would have have been subjected to higher UV rays than a sea level haze. Also more dramatic swings in temperature. From those environmental pressures alone there would have to be some kind of genetic response.
In the past before i grew wiz's genetics, I really only seen color with a drop in temps. Some how wiz brought it out in the JEM's in dominance. Every cross wiz has made since the JEM has had colour, even if that wasn't the trait selected for. Esbe said JEM was the holy grail of colour
If you want to see what relatives have colour in a line, cross it to a JEM, or a line with JEM in it.. The colour will come right out.
In the past before i grew wiz's genetics, I really only seen color with a drop in temps. Some how wiz brought it out in the JEM's in dominance. Every cross wiz has made since the JEM has had colour, even if that wasn't the trait selected for. Esbe said JEM was the holy grail of colour
If you want to see what relatives have colour in a line, cross it to a JEM, or a line with JEM in it.. The colour will come right out.
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Trifid
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Great answer. We share these views Bailer and they are concurrent with my observations in the Himayala most specifically in the mountainous areas of Pakistan.
That's interesting, and it appears that you are indeed very well informed on this subject - i am so pleased i decided to ask you the question now. You have provided the details i wanted to hear - about how to infulence the re-emergence of a recessive trait within a relative series. I have had in the past, a number of PurpleMazar from Stitch @ FlashSeeds and they did not purple to my surprise even under cold conditions with winter sun shine. I still feel a bit unsure however about how to apply what you have said about getting it to re-emerge from the pool. If for example i was to cross the PurpleMazar (Non-purple pheno) with a Jem, are you saying that it would likely reveal the PurpleMazar's color-gene or would the coloring of the first generation be a result of the Jem's dominance?
It is difficult to communicate what i mean to say here so my apologies if you cannot understand the question. I have read over it several times and can't see a better way of wording it! Haha. Anyway thank you mate for answering the first one.
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As soon as u can take another clone off that clone, do it. The flowering process will be slightly delayed on the new clone just as it was Delayed with the first rooted clone. When that clone roots and your able to take a cutting off it, take a new clone.Essentially by continuing this process, you should be able to keep an auto in veg a lot longer than normal, in theory. This was something I was wanting to try but didn't have the room to continue cloning. The clones will start throwing crazy looking reveg style leafs...
Like u mentioned, it might not be good for yeild, but keeping an auto fem alive would be sweet for back crossing. I don't know if u consider paradises pandora a dwarf or not, but i rooted a "top" from it. It seemed while it was rooting, its life cycle paused. I hope this makes a lil sense. I'm stoned as shit right now. Lol.
Northern Grower
OGwanKushObie
You would get some colour out of the cross. JEM is damn near a true breeding line. You can rely on it to add colour. I have had white JEM's that didn't turn any kind of colour, even when snowed on.
The JEM I first grew was from joint DR. I got very few colour phenos, though the stronger meds in the JEM line are the whites.
With just about any cross. You will see a re-emergence of past "relatives" in a line, in the F2's and F3's. So those are the generations you want to run a ton of seed to see who is lurking in genetic shadows. For lack of a better way to explain it
Very busy working on our new project.
Quick clone update. And a shot of the BOM winner. Will come down near the end of the month.
The clone is still vegging, but I am not sure how much longer. She is starting to pre flower pretty good. Going to transplant her again then see what happens under 24 hours light.
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Is there enough growth to take a clone off the clone?
