New Grower Autofem Massive Midget & Fem Delahaze

Plants don't product crystals that early. Its definitely not a canna plant and if you leave it in there its going to take nutes from your plant to grow itself you don't want that."Nope..never.."

Edit:
I work in lawn care and it looks like thisle or another broadleaf weed and you want to get rid of it asap.
I pulled it that same day.

Side note, I received my PH meter today and ran some tests on both the nutes and the soil.
Nutes: 4.2
Soil : 7.1

I know I read somewhere that there is a way to figure out the difference on what needs to be done to bring the soil PH to a steady 6.5.

Can anyone please help?

My tap water is at 7.0

I hope to avoid a lock out.
 
Am I ok that there is a 3 pt difference with my nutes and soil PH?? :worried:
 
Am I ok that there is a 3 pt difference with my nutes and soil PH?? :worried:

Your soil has dolomite limestone added to it, so the pH will be buffered to particular level, somewhere around 7.0 is what most commercial mixes are buffered. Your soil testing at 7.1 would lend this some credibility. Usually you can deal with this high buffer by feeding at about 6.3 or so. Your soil pH will drop down to around your feed level, then slowly rise back up as your soil drys. A lot of growers mix aluminum sulfate into the soil when first preparing. This brings the initial soil pH buffer down to a more ideal level. I grow in Promix and add 4 grams aluminum sulfate per gallon of soil. This brings the pH from around 7.0 down to 6.5 - 6.6. I feed at 6.3 and my ph soil drifts from 6.2- 6.3 up to 6.5 - 6.6.

If your feeding at 4.2, you need to get some pH up and/or pH down to get your feeds, and plain water waterings, to around 6.3. What brand soil pH meter did you buy? In my book, Accurate 8 is the only accurate one. You will need to get a liquid pH pen to test and adjust your feeds if you don't already have one.

It appears that you have everything under control for now. Start managing your pH better and you will have a great grow.

Also, I think your soil is pretty hot. I would back off the nutes some, i'm not familiar with what nutes you are using, but usually never go over 1/2 the concentration recommended on the bottle. Water when the pot feels light, your 3-4 days is not uncommon. Water until you get 10-15% of the amount you pour in to come out the bottom. This keeps salts washed out of the soil profile.
 
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Your soil has dolomite limestone added to it, so the pH will be buffered to particular level, somewhere around 7.0 is what most commercial mixes are buffered. Your soil testing at 7.1 would lend this some credibility. Usually you can deal with this high buffer by feeding at about 6.3 or so. Your soil pH will drop down to around your feed level, then slowly rise back up as your soil drys. A lot of growers mix aluminum sulfate into the soil when first preparing. This brings the initial soil pH buffer down to a more ideal level. I grow in Promix and add 4 grams aluminum sulfate per gallon of soil. This brings the pH from around 7.0 down to 6.5 - 6.6. I feed at 6.3 and my ph soil drifts from 6.2- 6.3 up to 6.5 - 6.6.

If your feeding at 4.2, you need to get some pH up and/or pH down to get your feeds, and plain water waterings, to around 6.3. What brand soil pH meter did you buy? In my book, Accurate 8 is the only accurate one. You will need to get a liquid pH pen to test and adjust your feeds if you don't already have one.

It appears that you have everything under control for now. Start managing your pH better and you will have a great grow.

Also, I think your soil is pretty hot. I would back off the nutes some, i'm not familiar with what nutes you are using, but usually never go over 1/2 the concentration recommended on the bottle. Water when the pot feels light, your 3-4 days is not uncommon. Water until you get 10-15% of the amount you pour in to come out the bottom. This keeps salts washed out of the soil profile.

I just bought the Oakton Ecotestr.

i was thinking about using tap water when I am going to feed nutes. My question is can I adjust the PH of my feeding water by some natural solution?
Or I must buy PH up in order to have everything back to normal?

i agree on the hot soil, gonna cut the nutes to 1/4 and see how it goes.
 
I just bought the Oakton Ecotestr.

i was thinking about using tap water when I am going to feed nutes. My question is can I adjust the PH of my feeding water by some natural solution?
Or I must buy PH up in order to have everything back to normal?

i agree on the hot soil, gonna cut the nutes to 1/4 and see how it goes.

If your tap water is 7.0, I would think that after adding your nutes you would be in the 6 something range. Unless your nutes really drop your pH more than mine do, I use AN. My water pH is 8.2, so I have to use alot of pH down to get my feed down to 6.3. I don't even own any pH up.

Don't know about your meter, but I go by the pH of the Accurate 8 soil probe. I don't even pH my runoff anymore, never was sold on the accuracy or consistancy of that method. Rough guess at best.
 
If your tap water is 7.0, I would think that after adding your nutes you would be in the 6 something range. Unless your nutes really drop your pH more than mine do, I use AN. My water pH is 8.2, so I have to use alot of pH down to get my feed down to 6.3. I don't even own any pH up.

Don't know about your meter, but I go by the pH of the Accurate 8 soil probe. I don't even pH my runoff anymore, never was sold on the accuracy or consistancy of that method. Rough guess at best.

Decided to use Poland spring water, which has a PH of 6.7, added some calmag with molasses in a .5 liter bottle. PH was at 6.5.

The plants didn't look too thirsty so I gave a very small amount hoping it will help. Will report back with any changes.
 
My girls on day 20( 2 in the back are the massive midgets and the biggest is the Delahaze. IMG_0215.jpgIMG_0216.jpgIMG_0217.jpg

Can anyone tell me whats going on with picture #3? Are those from insects or is it internal issues?

Also, I have a small gnat problem, I can't seem to keep them off my plants. I spray a little organic pesticide but they isnt working. Any thought on what will work?
 
Day 28 ( Since germination):

One of the MM had to be pulled because it became a hermie. Might of been the heat stress.

Right now all I have is the Delahaze Photo and the Auto Massive Midget. Have them on 20/4 lighting. I think I should start feeding the MM flowering nutes no?

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Been giving them water every other time plus 1/4 strength of the House & Garden line up ( 4ml Soil A&B, 1ml Drip Clean, 3ml Roots Excl, 2ml Amino Treatment, 2ml Multi-zen and 1ml Nitrogen boost)

In-between the nutes feed I water with molasses, cal/mag and Alaskan fish fertilizer

Just bought a 675W LED that I can switch the photo to a 12/12 when it flowers.
 
I do apologize for the unrotated pictures but they were uploaded upright, I can't change them in my computer because its correct already.

Damn it.... :(
 
In all honesty, Do I start feeding the Massive Midget flowering nutes from now on or do I wait longer?
 
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