Lighting Auto Sweet Tooth Grow Log

[sativalover]

overall point is i see from the pic a plant that is in a more alkaline soil that has been too wattered
not alot of overwattering but enough when you add the excessive temps could easily throw off ph by alittle
i would not rec giving any ammendments except proper ph water and only once finger inserted into medium shows very little moisture until you grasp the soil to oxygen and heat ratio to properly assume ph levels are stable
excess MEDIUM heat will throw nitrogen out of balance first usually and then soon to follow look like cal/mag issue????
too much nitrogen cal/mag iron even will only exaserbate the situation further if the medium temp is really in question
people often overlook this as a mian contributor if they have a larger area to work than one w/ a microp climate because a larger '
grow area often gives more shade and this is an issue not really coincidered
i often say i see alot of people spending alot on ph meters thinking this is the only key but really it is just a part of it in reality it has alot to do w/ the medium temps also and one thing overlooked is the amount of moisture in the container well this will change alot of things depending on the amount of heat and medium humidity
point is buy a 10$ moisture light ph meter even if it is just for moisture levels
it is rediculous to say mediumd need to be a certain ph ereading w/o explaining that even the slightest overwattering w/ change the available CAL/MAG NITROGEN AND IRON due to the less amunt of oxygen available for the displacement and proper balance of ion excnange
to have a meter for ph but to say pick up a bucket and measure weight by hand to see if it needs more water is obsurde
if you accurately measure one than the other should be measured as close to accurate as possible or an imbalance will at the least slightly occurr

 

[Resin87]

The only reason it is watered at the moment is that I was told to add some N to the soil to try and amend the current problem I'm usually fairly strict with waterings and tend to keep the soil more dry than wet. I can see what you are saying about the soil ph being thrown off once the soil has been warmed up and over watered. Do you have an idea as to what temps I should be looking at in the soil. I can go down to the local grow shop today and see what they can give me. I'll leave her dry out abit more she's starting to show sex and was hoping to transplant her when this happens. Do you think this would be a good move or should I wait till the current problem has been solved. Thanks again for your help.

 

[Resin87]

hey i understand it is like something is happening to your kid
and when you see an issue it is ALREADY an issue for some time to the plant and takes longer for us to see it

if in general you think you might have a soil temp issue you can put reflecting things like even cheap aluminum foil to lessen the soil being light saturated other than increasing the distance of the light
yes this will lessen the severity of a problem because you are lessining the amount of imbalance incoming energy from light to the plant so it will reduce the dramatic effect of a closer light giving more energy to exaserbate an already occuring problem(giving it a rest) so to speak but it is really giving you a rest to fix what the plant is telling you
cal/mag or nitrogen and iron could be the issue but at this stage in the game if there are any cal/mag ie. other issues i would tend to lean towards ph
and if you say ph is ok then i say well is it reading ok but actually off inside the medium
cal/mag at earlier stages really would stage from other issues other than underfeeding
truthfully if this was the case mag usually shows to the eye first
the real question is why the issue to begin w/????????

Sorry I didn't see this post. I'll take your advice and cut some thin cardboard and place it around the plant to shade the soil. I'll try and see if I can get my hands on a ph pen off someone and test the run off but will wait to do this when the soil dry's out. In the meantime i'll just ride this out and see what happens the new leaves that a re growing don't seem to be affected only the 2 larger older leaves but as you have said it can already be happening it just that I can'[t see it yet . Thanks again sativa

 

[Noods]

What do you mean when you say "transplant"? I hope you mean "tiering". That wee one is having a slightly rough time right now. If you go and take her completely out of that pot and put her into a new one with new soil and all that stress, she will not thank you for it.
My advice would be to get a very sharp utility knife, (regional names may vary: box-cutter, drywall knife, Stanley knife...) and CAREFULLY cut the bottom out of that pot that she's in now and plant THAT, small pot and plant, into the larger one, about 1/3 of the small pot in the larger soil.

Like this:

That was supposed to be a very mini-grow and it was supposed to stay in the small pot. But then I got more room and wanted it bigger, SO I did that.

You have to be very careful when cutting so you don't cut your fingers all apart. That's painful. And don't cut too deep and damage the roots. You should really consider this method before you take her and her soil completely out of that small pot.
If you do, for some reason, decide to do a complete transplant, make sure the soil in the small pot is very moist. Not muddy, so that it runs away on you, and not too dry that it crumbles apart and breaks the roots all up.

And DON'T love her to death! LOL Common mistake. Too much of a good thing can be detrimental.
Green Grow Karma coming my friend...

 

[Resin87]

Well im going to ride this out first and see how the little one recovers I took sativa's advice and place a cardboard cut out around the base of the stem to keep the light off the surface of the soil. She's in a smart pot anyway so if some roots do out grow they can be air trimmed. That "tiering" looks pretty sweet nood would you leave the plant like that for the rest of its life cycle. Don't worry I ain't lovin her to death its just bugging me that I don't know whats really going on to try and sort the problem. This stage of her life is the building blocks if this stage fails the yeild won't be that great plus she's starting to show sex and I want the lil one to enter the rapid growth stage nin good health..Im not going to change the enviroment (hang the doors and add the mylar) till she recovers from this. I'm going to post some pics in a few mins...

 

[Noods]

Many folks here at AFN swear by tiering Resin. And yes, they stay like that then till they're chopped. I'd rather just raise the light an inch or two or have a fan blow some air on the pot if I thought my soil might somehow be too warm. I would be too worried about mold and bad fungus forming in that dark, warm dampness under the cardboard.

 

[Resin87]

I'm going to do the tiering when she starts to come out of the current spell..The yellow has stopped spreading the yellow spots seem to be less visible..Never taught about the mold growing i've taken off the cardboard she's starting to smell a small bit.The tiering will work well with the smart pot the roots will be able to grow out through the slots into the soil in the second pot i like it thanks noods:thumbs: ...I have the light about 5 inches away from the plant do you think I should back it off a small bit the nodes are very tight so she shouldn't stretch too much...thanks again noods my man

 

[DJMILKCRATE]

im on the follow got 3 st1 on the way from attitude and 1000watt in cfl bulbs in a 8x4 closet...hope to learn as much as i can about this strain before i drop my beans..thx for this report

 

[Resin87]

im on the follow got 3 st1 on the way from attitude and 1000watt in cfl bulbs in a 8x4 closet...hope to learn as much as i can about this strain before i drop my beans..thx for this report

No Problem dude

 

[Resin87]

Today is day 16 and I think she is starting to get better I have noticed that the yellowing has stopped and has not appeared anywhere else on the plant only the old leaves have curled and the new leaves seem to be in good health. Here's some pictures tell me what you think I also took some photo's of her roots I think she'll have to be transplanted by the end of the week. I'm going to try the tiering suggested by noods hopefully things will be well and good by the end of the week.