Sweet Seeds Auto Green Poison (and some Dinafem Auto Original Amnesia too!)

Hey mate! :smoke: This looks like combo Ca-Mg defc.,... LOL!- there's a reason they pair these two together, as one is often linked/followed by the other,... yeah, some of the necrotic damage does look a bit like P defc., but the leaf color is the tell (yellowing pattern), as is the spotty nature of the necrosis; P defc. usually causes patches of wasting/necrotic tissue, even when still fairly green at times! Also, Ca is very poorly mobile, so uppermost growth tends to be hit the hardest, while Mg is fully mobile, and will be drawn off lower fans first, yellowing them out from edges in, usually w/o spotting .... Ca-Mg munchies are not uncommon; had one plant that ate 3 times what the other seed-mate had, and at this stage, it's almost automatic! no doubt, the most common defc. syndrome I see here,... I have no idea why this happens though,... :dunno: regardless, this is not damage caused by fungus gnat larvae attacking the roots, in epic numbers... you would know by the clouds of adults flying around, and the maggot-like larvae that might be at the bottom of the pot drainage....symptoms simply don't match up...
...do you have a dedicated Ca-Mg supp'? the conc. of stuff in them is usually high, better that molasses; Foliar is out at this stage of budding, barring a desperate severe save attempt,.. but you're not there! If not, molasses will do in a pinch, as it has decent amounts of Ca, Mg and K in it, plus the sugars will make the soil herd and plant happy; mix at 1T/gal soil drench; make sure to quit at least 10 days before projected harvest, as part of the final cleansing process,....
(Do you have some gnats? Small numbers are no more than a nuisance, but no need to put up with them at all; nothing kicks their asses like Mosquito dunks, or the bacterial equivalent,...(that's how they work, there's a specific bacteria inoculated in them, that gets in the bugs' guts and wrecks them)... I found granular stuff at OSH, instead of the pucks that are a PITA to break down!
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Wow Waira - thanks so much for taking the time to to write this out! I do have gnats as I can see em on the pest strips already, but as you say, cal mag is what I have been suspecting and trying (obviously badly!) to treat.

I will give em another increased dose of calmag. All I wanna do now is nurse them over the finish line and get my sweet trainwreck going! Thanks again for this mate. It doesn´t mean much ´cos I´m new here, but :slap:
 
Probably the fungus gnat larvae shit is clogging up the soil and not allowing the plant to take up the nutrients it should be. The best way to clean them out is to do a treatment when the plants are still young and when it's time for just a watering with just water. I think the stuff is thurmicide something like that. Mix that with the water and then allow the soil to dry out almost to the point where the plants might begin to wilt. Then treat the soil one more time. That should kill the larvae and then keep the pest strips in there to kill the adults.
 
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I thought I would post a quick update on whats happened over the last couple of days. I´ll have to add pics later as lights are off at the mo!

So it turns out I had a dual issue - a calmag def coupled with a fungus gnat infestation. I´ve hopefully dealt with both and have committed a mass genocide of gnats in the tent! The girls are looking a bit battle weary, but hopefully the worst is over and they can cruise over the finish line.

The question is why? Particularly the calmag issue. There is nothing different about this grow from countless others I have done - and although I haven´t grown Green Poison before, I have done the Amnesia several times and it never showed this sort of issue, so I did what I should have done from the start and checked everything.

It turns out that my tap water (which is very hard and used to have a pH of up to 9) is now coming out of the tap at 7 exactly. I guess that the defs are happening because the PPM of my starting water is much lower than it used to be, and instead of realising and reacting accordingly, I carried on regardless and the girls suffered. So from now on, instead of checking pH after I add in the nutes, I will make sure I know what I am actually starting out with - the pH perfect always keeps my pH in range so I guess I got lazy!

Thanks to all for the help and input - the gnats made a bad situation worse but weren´t the primary problem. I´ll pop a pic of some corpses up later! Have an awesome weekend everyone!
 
Well the battle has been brutal, casualties are many, but we are still going! The gnats coupled with the cal mag problems have caused my girls to look a bit sorry for themselves, but after upping my cal mag and murdering hundreds of gnats, I hope the worst is over.

Here are a few of the many gnats caught on the yellow pest strips I put everywhere:

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And here are a couple of the girls.
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As you can see there is quite a lot of damage, and I´ve lost a lot of leaves: I´m quite certain I will have compromised my yield too, but its a real testament to the genetics that they are still growing and fattening up.

They are starting to frost up quite nicely too:
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So lets hope I can keep them happy for a couple more weeks and get them harvested.

Bonus pic - the nug of Black Cream I am currently smoking!
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Evening all. I´m chilling with a smoke and thought I would do a quick update after the calmag & gnat episode so i stuck my head in the tent and snapped a few bud shots.

Despite all the damage they are coming on nicely and starting to swell and frost up. Some of them are much further on than others - generally the Green Poisons are further on than the Amnesia´s, but saying that the biggest Green Poison is the slowest in the tent, but is also gonna yield the most I think.

Here´s a family photo:
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So I´m pretty happy - they are carrying on as if nothing happened. I´ll be starting to taper off the nutes on the most developed ones soon but its gonna be a very staggered harvest as some are probably gonna need another 3/4 weeks.

Also went to the grow shop today in preparation for my next run. I´m doing 3 Sweet Trainwreck & 3 Sweet Bloody Skunk. I´ll be changing thing a bit by only doing 6 instead of 9, and I´m going to try a pot comparison. 2 will go into 25L round plastic buckets, 2 will go into 15L round plastic buckets, 1 will go into a 26L smart pot, and 1 in 15L square pot. I want to see for myself how different pot sizes and styles affects yield, and the winner will be my choice moving forward. I actually think the 26L pots will be a waste of soil, but I want to find out definitively!
 
Quick day 60 update. Moving along nicely towards flush time now - despite all the damage they are continuing to fatten and frost up. I´ll be starting to just give ph´d water to a couple of them from now, with the rest needing a bit more time - strangely the most advanced plant is an Amnesia that was badly damaged by the calmag/gnat issue - its not gonna yield well though :cuss:

Anyway, here is a tent shot:
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And some bud shots (just Green Poison)
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I´ll be harvesting at the very earliest opportunity as I have limited time until the summer heat really kicks in and I have to shut the tent down for a couple of months. I really wanna get my Trainwreck & Bloody Skunks in ASAP so as soon as the trichs are right they are gonna be chopped!

Hope everyone is sweet, and happy St. Georges Day to all us English growers!
 
Monster plants.....:drool:
 
Hey dude - thanks for stopping by bro! :Sharing One:. Been watching your photo green poisons and they are looking great mate - would be nice if we could swap nugs after harvest to compare the smoke - if only eh!!
 
I´m sitting here watching the footie scores and shitting myself about certain results so thought I would write a quick update to take my mind off potential league 2 footie next season! I chopped an Amnesia down this morning. She was badly damaged by the calmag issues but her trichs are all cloudy (even an odd amber kicking around) so she is gonna be fine to smoke, but I have certainly taken her too early - she could have swelled up a lot more, but I want them out ASAP so I can get the next ones in! I have a Sweet Trainwreck ready to take her place, and will start a separate diary for that grow! Just realised I am rambling - that´ll be the scissor hash then! Anyway, here a few pics:

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There were 7 main colas as she had been LST´d, and a lot of popcorn. I´m guessing dry weight will be around 35-40g after a closer trim. The next 3 plants to hit the early harvest window will come out ASAP and the rest can run to a nice finish - its gonna be a really hot summer here and I need to get the next ones in urgently!
 
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