1st time Organic grow, 3 gallon pot :(

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I had picked up some "Great Lakes Water Only soil" awhile back and decided it was time to give it a try. I put the soil in GroBuckets which ends up being about a 3 gallon pot. My oldest plant is 50 days from breaking soil and I have only been using tap water pH'd with 100% lemon juice. Everything is doing great and the plants are just beautiful. I just read that a 7 gallon minimum pot size is recommended for a complete grow cycle. I feel like I need to start feeding the soil before I run into issues and I have no idea where to start or any kind of schedule to use. Should I be using teas or organic nutes?
 

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Wow day 50 and only PH'd water!??

That is some good soil as your plants look really good to me, nutes would definitely help with packing on bud mass, but there are others more knowledgeable than I that can offer better advise on nutes, but dude nice job!
 
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Listen to your plants buddy :thumbsup:don't just start adding things because you read it somewhere,
The water-only soils reccomend a large pot, doesnt mean it can't be done,
the leaves look super dark green to me, adding something might throw off your pre-set soil mix and cause other issues :goodluck:
 
Hey. I am a noob grower, but I just went through this. I am in water-only kind soil in 1.5 gallon pots.I noticed some nutrient deficiency issues around day 40. Started with yellowing, crisping leaves and a premature fade. I have some bottled General Organics bloom nutrients that I have been supplementing with that has pretty much taken care of the issue.

I have seen people on here make it all the way with water-only super soil in less than 7 gallons. But I would say to definitely have a plan if/when you start seeing the soil nutrients lose steam. It can’t hurt to have some bottled organic nutes on hand if things start to go sideways. But as @DMHeights said wait for the plants to tell you what they need.
 
That 7 gal or bigger pot rule (it's actually 15gal or bigger) is more intended for "no till" living soil, and for photo period plants or longer growing crops. In the photo period world 7 gal is about the minimum size you want to flower in. Autos don't live long enough to outgrow medium sized pots. I have yet to see an auto in a 5 gal pot live long enough for the roots to wrap around themselves several times, all the way up the pot. You should have no worries of running out of root space/food.

In a one gallon pot for example, at harvest, you can pull the dried soil out and see the roots wrapping around themselves. That's a sign that the roots are out of space and that the food in the soil is close to or already at depletion. In the photo period world, this is when we transplant into a bigger pot with with fresh soil/food. At some point in a one gallon pot, you will have to start feeding npk in some form or another, auto or not. Water only in small pots is rare. But you should not have that issue in home depot buckets.

The purpose of water only living soil is to feed the soil, not the plant, so that the soil can be reused over and over. So I wouldn't recommend adding any kind of bottled nutrient. I would use a compost tea to feed/increases the microbe life that break down the organic matter, which in in turn releases NPK for the plant to use as needed. At this point, one, maybe two applications of a compost tea or microbe inoculate like recharge, should be enough. You technically only have about a month or so to do, so not much else will be needed.

Congrats on getting this far and being disciplined enough to not just add stuff.
 
That 7 gal or bigger pot rule (it's actually 15gal or bigger) is more intended for "no till" living soil, and for photo period plants or longer growing crops. In the photo period world 7 gal is about the minimum size you want to flower in. Autos don't live long enough to outgrow medium sized pots. I have yet to see an auto in a 5 gal pot live long enough for the roots to wrap around themselves several times, all the way up the pot. You should have no worries of running out of root space/food.

In a one gallon pot for example, at harvest, you can pull the dried soil out and see the roots wrapping around themselves. That's a sign that the roots are out of space and that the food in the soil is close to or already at depletion. In the photo period world, this is when we transplant into a bigger pot with with fresh soil/food. At some point in a one gallon pot, you will have to start feeding npk in some form or another, auto or not. Water only in small pots is rare. But you should not have that issue in home depot buckets.

The purpose of water only living soil is to feed the soil, not the plant, so that the soil can be reused over and over. So I wouldn't recommend adding any kind of bottled nutrient. I would use a compost tea to feed/increases the microbe life that break down the organic matter, which in in turn releases NPK for the plant to use as needed. At this point, one, maybe two applications of a compost tea or microbe inoculate like recharge, should be enough. You technically only have about a month or so to do, so not much else will be needed.

Congrats on getting this far and being disciplined enough to not just add stuff.
Hey man. A couple questions if you don’t mind. I’m the one who posted above about breaking down and supplementing with bottled nutes when I started getting deficiencies in mid flower in my small super soil grow.

It’s worked in a pinch when I needed nutes ASAP, but would like to avoid in the future for the reasons you state.

But, I was getting the impression once I got to the point of needing nutrients that quick, then bottled was the primary option.

So can you stop major deficiencies that quickly with teas?

For my next grow I looking at some options for a weekly or biweekly top dress program to hopefully avoid getting to the point of needing emergency nutrients, but I figure I need something on hand as a back up. Would that be a tea made with a nutrient pack/amendments. Like something from BuildASoil?
 
Hey man. A couple questions if you don’t mind. I’m the one who posted above about breaking down and supplementing with bottled nutes when I started getting deficiencies in mid flower in my small super soil grow.

It’s worked in a pinch when I needed nutes ASAP, but would like to avoid in the future for the reasons you state.

But, I was getting the impression once I got to the point of needing nutrients that quick, then bottled was the primary option.

So can you stop major deficiencies that quickly with teas?

For my next grow I looking at some options for a weekly or biweekly top dress program to hopefully avoid getting to the point of needing emergency nutrients, but I figure I need something on hand as a back up. Would that be a tea made with a nutrient pack/amendments. Like something from BuildASoil?
It depends on the scenario. In those home depot buckets in his soil, yes, teas should work rather quickly. Compost teas are teaming with microbe life, and his soil seems to be alive. But in a one gallon pot, not so much so. Small containers are tricky. I use the build a soil nute pack to top dress and amend used soil. I've even made teas with it. It works well. But in small pots you have to stay on top of watering and the microbe life in soil. You can top dress, but if you don't have the microbe life to break down the amendments in the nute pack, then it will be a slow release. That's where teas come in.
 
It depends on the scenario. In those home depot buckets in his soil, yes, teas should work rather quickly. Compost teas are teaming with microbe life, and his soil seems to be alive. But in a one gallon pot, not so much so. Small containers are tricky. I use the build a soil nute pack to top dress and amend used soil. I've even made teas with it. It works well. But in small pots you have to stay on top of watering and the microbe life in soil. You can top dress, but if you don't have the microbe life to break down the amendments in the nute pack, then it will be a slow release. That's where teas come in.
Right on. Thanks. I think my small pots have definitely made my first grow more challenging that it could have been. I am definitely going to move up in size on pots, too. Probably 3 or 5 gallon, depending on what fits in the tent.
 
I forgot I even posted this. I was pretty stressed out. I did/still do have leaves fading. I picked up some iguana juice bloom the next day and fed the one plant that seems to be affected then just water since then. I'm hoping time will help. I decided I really need to get the temps back down more than anything. Been creeping up over 85F lately. I don't know anything about making teas. Will they work with a bottom watering system? I could just pour it in the top.
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