Indoor 1st grow/4x4 tent/1000watts/hydro-soil hybrid/5 strains

scroging is were you put a net over the top so you tuck the top and another main cola will come to the top you keep doing this so you would get more yield. instead od one maiin cola you would get like 12
or more
 
Sweet, ok, didnt know that's what they called that. I call it training them but I come from a past of growing some bonsai trees. Nothing major, being a hack at that more than anything. I tend to be a jack of all trades and master of none. I have a rope up now in my tent to try and spread things out a bit but it doesn't start till 24 inches up. My Lemon Haze and just today Afghan Kush Ryder are at it and passing it. My secondary branches will be at it by tomorrow for LH. TMM
 
nice..let me know how the training works for you. i seen on youtube were 1000w autoflower grow netted around 500+ grams 5 plants....
and he used a scrog.
 
Check out the critical 2.0 grow in my sig. That'll show what a scrog is. Welcom to the family.
 
i checked it out nice grow thats what ill probally do next go around is try a flood and drain because once you set up a scrog on dwc it hard to change out
and my autos doing this time are in 2 gal pots running homemade soil.
 
Well, good evening everyone. Its that time again. I left off at soil and nutes. I have decided to go with the Octopots, I have lights, now I need everything else. I called an ad in High Times that happened to be at the hydro grow article. Shout out to Brian at Hydroponics Inc, awesome customer service. Brian hooked me up and gave me some suggestions. I told him I didnt want 15 million different bottles of nutes, was there some that was all in one or two kinda thing. He sells me Canna Coco A & B and some Canna boost. Along with some root boost. Ok, I can deal with 4. I could deal with the 15 million if I had to, I just dont want to. Brian also suggests using Coco Loco for my coco coir.

Being as they are west coast and Im mid south, I wasn't going to ship the soil from them. I find a place 1 state away, better than 1/2 the country. The Octopots suggest using 60% peat and 40% perlite. Now the Coco Loco has perlite already mixed in. Im also trying to figure out what ratios of what will work best. I figure all right, I have 5 different strains lets try 5 different soils and see which does the best. All well and good except for that to work I need 5 of the same strain and really 5 from the same plant. So while I did mix up different mixes of soil the one i like the most is 70% Coco Loco, 20% perlite, 10% calcined clay. Why do i like this formula, I dont know other than it looks rright. Why the calcined clay? I used grow bonsai trees and that was used in the soil to add aeration, moisture holding ability, nutrient holding ability. I surmised if it was good for some bonsai then surly its good for some weed. Is it? I really dont know but my babies aren't complaining.

I do have some confusion over my nutes and maybe someone more knowledgeable than I can chime in with some help. I was under the thought process that the Canna Coco A & B was A for veg and B for flower. This thought was further cemented with the directions saying, do not mix A & B together as insoluble combinations will occur. Then Im watching a Youtube video of a Scott Real (maybe) and he was using the Octopots also. In this video he talks about how he mixes the A & B in the reservoir for the whole life cycle of the plant. When I was feeding a couple weeks ago, I was only feeding A. Can somebody tell me which way is right, please?

As for water, I also come from a background in saltwater fish tanks. Not just fish tanks but reef tanks. Water for them must be clean and filtered. I again surmise that if its good and filtered it is probably good for my babies. Not exactly.

I buy filtered water and use that for the first few weeks, somewhere I read that filtered water can be worse than tap water in some cases. It takes too much out. Seems that was the case, while mine look good they didnt always look that way. They were a very dull green, just not a very vibrant color green. I could be wrong but I think it was a calcium/magnesium defieciency. I have started using tap water and that has helped tremendously. Now that Im thinking about it, I wonder if I should have been doing both nutes and that was part of my problem.

We talked about germination, now that they have sprouted, woo hoo. I start using a 400 watt mh and even with this very close to them, they still turned toward the light. That lasted about a week, I wasn't having that especially when I have a 1000 watt just sitting here. The 1000 went in, I jacked my rope ratchets all the way up, but NOTHING stretched after that. That's a long enough post and my dogs want out.

Talk to you later, The Muffin Man
 
Hey all, I haven't given an update or continued my story in a while so I thought I would share a couple of pics. This is day 38/28. I will continue this evening. TTFN, TMM
 

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Good evening everyone,

Welcome back! I have been slacking here lately with my grow journal and updates. My ladies are looking awesome as ever. They are in full flower mode at this point. Crystals are coming in abundance now. The smell is really starting up, at least according to the wife. The vertical growth that they were experiencing has slowed to a crawl. The leaves are starting to get their nutes sucked out of them. At least that's what I think is happening.

That's what's happening now, now back to the begining. I switched out my 400 mh for a 1000 watt mh. Being so new, I had the light too low. After a few days of the 1000 down low and they started to show signs of heat stress, so that's when I put the rope ratchets all the way up. That worked.

When I ordered everything, I just got a carbon filter and an inline fan. Damn, that thing sounds like its going to take off with my tent in tow. Started searching, got it, fan controller. Why in the hell don't they just put them on from the git go? Got that problem solved.

Both Fast and Vast & Lemon Haze are growing at identical rates. Leaf for leaf, node for node. Kind of interesting to watch especially seeing how vastly(pun intended) different they are. Even funnier now that I am way past that point and I really see how different they are.

The octopots I'm using get oxygen to the root system via the grow sleeve they use and using a very light mix so air can pass through easier. After reading about them, some people have taken air stones and put them in the reservoir to add more oxygen. Since Ive had lots of experience and extra toys from fish tanks in the past, air pump, check, air stones and tubing, not check. Mine are too old so its off to the pet shop. Got them and installed them. The roots love it and it helps keep the water mixed up well.

My tent runs dry, like the Sahara kinda dry. If RH even registers on my guage it never gets out of the 20%'s. I pickup a humidifier, vicks mist thingy from Walmart. It works, I place it on the ground right outside the tent vent.

Since my tent runs hot and dry, I decided to try a cooltube as per an earlier suggestion. Now my girls are starting to show other signs of heat stress. I start looking locally for a cooltube. There are a couple within 2hrs. That is until I start calling and realize they don't have any in stock. No one does. I finally get a hold of Mid-Tn Hydroponics and they have a Sun Star 6" air cooled hood. This is about as close to a cooltube as you can get while being a rectangle. The hood I got from the auction is rather old and they don't make the flanges anymore to duct it. I can rig that but I didn't have glass for it so I just bought the Sun Star.

I was also able to pick up a good ph test kit along with some ph down. I really needed the ph down and we picked up some CAliMAGic. With the addition of the air cooled hood, I dropped my temps 8-10 deg and raised my RH 10%. We needed that. That should do me for the night. As for the pics, there is one that should be a collage of 4, then an overall pic from outside the tent and the last is Lemon Haze, that's one of my babies. Everything to the right of the ruler is Lemony. Enjoy for now.

The Muffin Man
 

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Good evening all,

Before I added the air cooled hood I tried some co2. I had no idea what I was doing so I just cranked it up. Now, I also cook with my medicine, with that I will sometimes put my crockpot in the tent so that any smell is taken up by my filter. Fine well and good till you overload your power strip and the circuit breaker kicks off after you just left the house. Doh! Not sure what happened but my co2 was gone. I had about 500psi in my tank and when i came back to everything off I had like 200psi left. Im thinking that maybe the valve got stuck open when the power kicked off.

Damn that's expensive, $25 every 2 days for co2 that's not happening. Well with my temps dropping due to getting a new hood, I figured maybe I can run some co2now. I went out and got another tank and we started pumping it in this morning. I can finally drop my fan down so that its just barely producing a neg pressure within the tent. After having run co2 all day, at a slightly lower rate than before, but I still didn't even use 100psi all day today.

Now my question is this, should I still run co2 at night. I know that they need light for photosynthesis but do they need photosynthesis to use co2? That is the question. For now I am going to turn the co2 off at night. Im trying to get the benefits of co2 while trying not to break my wallet.

Next question, does anyone else have two distinctive climate zones within their tent?

My tent has such a canopy of green that my under canopy climate is vastly different than my above canopy climate. Below is about 74° and 60% RH with the above canopy running about 84° and 30% RH. Yes I have 3 fans blowing on the under canopy and I have one oscillating fan up top and the filter sucking out. My girls are still doing good so no worries there, I just found it interesting and wondered if anyone else was experiencing the same.

Well that about brings us to present day. Everything else is just normal, or so I think. Im still learning and figuring things out. Any suggestions or comments are appreciated and welcome.

TTFN, The Muffin Man.
 
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