Cubensis mushrooms for medical use

@SAWNEY-BEAN, yeah I’ve seen Uncle Ben’s tek in action, and I’ve been tempted. From what I’ve seen, the actual brand doesn’t matter, as long as it’s plain brown rice in microwave pouches.

Other brands work just as well, if not, better, and they come in larger sizes, like 450g and 500g instead of 250g.

As always with inoculations, you’ll need a load of 70% Isopropyl and some micropore tape. I would recommend using fresh needles for each bag rather than flame sterilisation to avoid contamination.

I’m sure you’ve seen some YouTube videos on this! Good luck!

Regarding what you were saying about Fly Agaric… here’s a good video about it. The first 10 mins is her wittering on about the history (eg the Berserkers), but then she gives a lot of info about how to use them and what to expect.

Also if you go back to post 20 in this thread, you’ll find a conversation with @elderweeder and @frankthetank about their experiences with it.

Not for me though, I’m on the shrooms for the medicinal rather than the recreational effect.

The effects are a bonus, a pleasant reward after the years of agonizing pain from the Cluster Headaches… one of the most painful conditions in medical science - worse than childbirth, kidney stones and even gunshots.

Some people succesfully use LSD for their Cluster Headaches, as it works in the same way as Psilocin - by binding to Serotonin receptors in the brain.

There is some research going into a drug called BOL-148 to treat Cluster Headache (or to give it the correct name - Trigeminal Autonomic Cephalagia) and some other vascular headaches.

It is basically the LSD molecule with a bromide added on it to make it ‘2 Bromo Lysergide’.

The added bromide prevents hallucinations and mind altering effects but still binds to the Serotonin receptors like regular LSD or Psilocin. Scientists created it to study serotonin receptors without the psychedelic trip.

If this became commercially available (and I hope it does), I’d kinda miss having the mushies… I like the mild warm buzz and the afterglow! As I’ve always maintained, I’m not looking to get completely mashed out… light visuals and trails are enough for me.

Plus I have to medicate fairly often, so seeing God twice a week would fuck me up quick time.

Talking of Fucks, my Jedi Mind Fucks are on their third flush.

Any old debris seemed to melt away as the substrate re-colonised on the surface and then started to show new pins.

I’ve done NO fanning, NO spraying or misting, in fact apart from a daily check, I haven’t opened the tub, and this time the fruits are on the top of the substrate, rather than on the side or even underneath!

If you zoom in, you’ll see there’s quite a bit of action going on, especially on the right side.

I’m expecting the JMF tub to fill out during the week and have the weekend to do some cropping and dehydration.

If everything goes well, there could be another sizable haul on the way!

Same with me mate. I vommed and shat every time in the early days. :face_vomiting: Then I found out about lemon tek… or more specifically, orange juice for 30-60 mins, and never felt queasy again.

@Kspun I briefly saw honey being mentioned somewhere. Now you’ve said it as well, I’m gonna have to find out more about it!

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I also recommend a still air box. Definitely reduces chances of contamination and they’re only like $30. Just put everything you need inside before you zip it up and you can hit everything inside with iso

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Absolutely. I love my still air box! It’s a pop up version, and can take longer to put away than the time it takes to set it up, load it with everything you need, and inoculate some bags!

I bought it because I contaminated my first bag of grain, and since I’ve been using it, I’ve had no contamination at all.

If you scroll back to post 40 in this thread, you’ll see mine.

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OK so on Sunday afternoon I showed you the JMF tub in the early stages of the third flush.

This is how the tub looks today on Wednesday morning…

It’s amazing how things can change in just 3 days! The ‘action’ that I pointed out on the top right side on Sunday now looks like this….

The veil has broken on 2 or 3, including the biggest one in the corner, so I plucked the 5 largest ones and let the others develop some more.

These just need slicing in half and they can go in the food dehydrator….

I can see around 25 baby mushies growing so if most of them develop into similar sized fruits as above, I should get around 200-250g in total in the next few days! Not all of them will develop though.

It’s only been 10 days since the end of the 2nd flush where I harvested over 400g of fresh Jedis and it looks like I should get a good amount again!

Please tune in soon for more updates!

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Well maybe I spoke too soon!

I plucked these yesterday evening…

Then (and sit down for this) after I pulled those I thought I should give the tub a quick misting of water to keep the humidity up.

Instead, I picked up the 70% Isopropyl alcohol and sprayed that instead FOR FUCK’S SAKE!:tired_face:

In a panic I then sprayed water over it when I should have just fanned it to evaporate the alcohol. I think that will fuck the substrate and spoil any further flushes, dammit.

There’s still a few mushies to develop and they didn’t get sprayed so they might be okay.

I’ll check this evening and see what the damage is. Grrrrrrrr!

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Hey, I just wanted to do a quick update after accidentally spraying 70% Isopropyl Alcohol on my 3rd flush.

On Thursday evening I plucked a few more mushrooms…

That’s 210g so far.

Then I took a pic of what was left….

There’s a few shrooms left which I harvested on Friday morning.

You can see the bruising caused by the Alcohol in the top left quadrant…

… so I think that’s it for the moment.

After drying, this is the entire third flush of Jedi Mind Fucks….

25g is a nice amount, and added to the 28g from the first flush and the 43g from the second flush makes a total of 96g, so I’m pretty happy with that!

So happy in fact, I’ve just taken my medicinal dose, so I’m off!

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Here’s my fruiting tent at the moment…

The top tub is the Jedi Mind Fuck one, the middle tub is TAT Wombat and the bottom tub is the Albino Trinity.

The eagle eyed may notice a dental mirror on the top shelf… the latest addition to my tool kit… it’s great for looking under the caps to check the veils during fruiting.

The JMF is now recovering from the third flush and subsequent alcohol shock….

The bruising has pretty much gone and new pins are forming already. I decided to soak the substrate block with water for a few hours to hopefully push a fourth flush out.

Here’s the TAT Wombat…

Lovely snow white colonisation and if you look closely in the centre and bottom right, some teeny tiny mushrooms!

The Wombat’s been in the fruiting tent for 12 days now, and I think I saw these early signs a few days ago, so this is a quick one!

Here’s a close look at the central ones…

… and here’s the bottom right…

The ‘TAT’ in the name means ‘True Albino Teacher’ so these look like they’re gonna be my first albinos!!!

Speaking of albinos, the Albino Trinity is a bit slower, but I noticed a green patch in the lower left quadrant…

Here’s a closer look….

Once the substrate is colonised, it’s supposed to be more resistant to contamination, and this looks well contained.

I decided to glove up and remove it…

I’ll keep an eye on it and if necessary remove a bigger chunk.

I think the Wombat will produce its first flush towards the end of the week, so I’ll keep you posted.

Thanks for popping by! :mushroom::mushroom::mushroom:

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As always, things move fast in the Mush Room.

Believe it or not, the Jedi Mind Fucks are having a FOURTH flush…

You might spot a couple on the right side near the top and some more at the bottom edge in both corners.

Here’s a closer look at the bottom right cluster…

… and the bottom left cluster…

There’s quite a few pins dotted around too, so I hope I can get another decent crop.

The TAT Wombat is also progressing nicely…

There’s plenty of shrooms in there!

Here’s a closer look at the bottom edge…

… and here’s those mushies in the centre…

I’m looking forward to harvesting a load of nice looking mushrooms this weekend :grin:

Last but not least, the Albino Trinity tub…

As you might recall from my last post, I removed a bit of substrate from the lower left side, and it looks to be recolonising well….

Although now I look at it, I think that green patch of possible contamination is still there? I’ll have to find my spectacles and check it out tomorrow morning. I might just remove a full thickness cylinder of substrate and be done with it.

What do YOU reckon?

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That big group of TAT Wombat mushrooms are looking great!

I picked three because their veils had just broken…

But it’s happening again… mushrooms are growing on the underside of the TAT Wombat mycelium block grrrr.

I tried breaking a few bits off and turning them over….

Those pieces are loaded with little baby shrooms…

… and here’s some more. See the difference between the more mature ’surface’ ones on the left compared to the smaller ‘underside’ shrooms on the right…

I hope I haven’t killed it!

I knew this would happen, because I forgot to make a liner for the tub. It’s more humid and oxygen trapped under the block made conditions under the block better than on top for fruiting.

Never mind, the three I picked are in the food dehydrator and I’m sure I’ll be adding more over the next few days.

I’ll let you know how they go!

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Those pics in the last post were taken last night.

This morning, I took a peek and saw that the veils were breaking on a few in that big patch, so I cropped them!

I sliced all of them in half and they are in the dehydrator.

I’ve gotta go to work now so I’ll show you what’s left later today.

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Moving on from the last post…

That evening, about 12 hours later, I checked the tub and it was looking good!

All the bits that I turned over (on the left side) were full of mushrooms, many of which were ready for picking with veils just beginning to tear open.

Because there’s so many, they had to compete for nutrients and so are a bit smaller, but still full of punch!

There’s just SO much!

I picked the whole lot and got them ready for the dehydrator….

That’s all of the ‘underside’ mushrooms done.

That brings us to early this afternoon, another 16 hours later, and the tub looked like this…

The last few mushrooms on the right side were looking chunky!

So I cropped the lot.

That’s the TAT Wombat’s first flush all done… 361g plus the three I pulled at the beginning.

That should make about 38g of final dried product! I’ll let you know when they’re dry.

Here’s a copy from Zombiemyco about the strain…

Wombat TAT is a relatively modern strain within the context of psychedelic mushroom use, but its lineage ties it to historically significant genetic strains. The “TAT” designation stands for “True Albino Teacher,” which originated from a selective breeding project focused on stabilizing albino traits in Psilocybe cubensis. The genetic events that led to Wombat TAT’s emergence are part of a broader trend among psychoactive mushroom enthusiasts to isolate rarer phenotypes and improve cultivability, potency, and visual appeal.

Well as far as visual appeal goes… they hit he spot. They are beautiful, ghost white mushrooms… little clouds of goodness!

I’ll give them a go as soon as I can!

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OK, so the TAT Wombat first flush is dried and in storage. As always with my pics, take the time to tap and zoom in to really see the details!

The final dried product is a pale white/grey mushroom with a pale plue tinge from the bruising…

34g isn’t bad for a first flush, and there’s still some more to come…

In addition, this afternoon, I turned over a few bits of substrate to reveal….

….and…

I’m sure they will be in the dehydrator by the end of the week and bring me over the 40g mark.

The Jedi Mind Fuck fourth flush is almost done.

There wasn’t a huge amount, I picked 1-3 mushrooms at a time over the course of the weekend. Although there were less, they were reasonably big…

Here’s the full dried amount so far…

And again there’s a few more on the way…

There’s also this one down the side…

Is that The Last Jedi ?

Regular readers will remember that there is another tub in the fruiting tent.

The Albino Trinity tub!

The surface of the substrate was thick solid with mycelium… perhaps too much.

I had a peek underneath the tub and lo and behold… a load of mushroom growth!

I think the surface developed into ‘Stroma’ or ‘overlay’… a thick, dense, felt like layer of mycelium that forms a tough protective barrier that blocks moisture and air exchange, effectively preventing the mycelium from pinning and fruiting.

I was thinking of ‘forking’ it (breaking or grooving up the surface with sterilised fork to improve oxygen flow), but I was too slow and the mushies have decided to grow underneath instead.

To prevent this happening, next time I’m gonna try ‘Bubblewrap tek’ where you lay a sheet of disinfected bubblewrap, bubble side down to allow micro air flow and high humidity, over the colonising mycelium in the early days of fruiting initiation.

Anyway, I flipped over the cake without the need to break it up. (I’m getting good at that now)….

That’s a good amount of coverage.

Here’s the top right…

… the top left…

… and bottom third…

So once again, I’m looking at another busy harvest this coming weekend!

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Man you make this look so FUN!

I don’t wanna eat them.. but I wanna grow them lol

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As predicted, it’s been a busy end to the week. Don’t forget to zoom in on each pic for some lovely detail!

I picked the first load of Albino Trinity mushrooms on Thursday afternoon…

They look great… look at the way they have bruised where they were cut! That’s a good indication of psilocybin.

There’s more left in the Albino Trinity tub…

… so today (Friday) I cropped some more…

… then I thought I should just remove everything else there and be done with it…

So that’s 447g of fresh Albino Trinity, and it’s being dehydrated as I write this.

The TAT Wombat is still finishing its first flush. I thought the flush was done last week then I turned over a few pieces of the cake to reveal more mushies, so I kept it going.
This is how the tub looked yesterday afternoon…

… and 24 hours later…

Here’s a few close ups of some TAT Wombat mushrooms :brown_mushroom: ….

Some really nice looking mushrooms, I’m sure you will agree!

Most had their veils broken so I picked the whole lot….

I’ve given the TAT Wombat and Albino Trinity tubs a little soak in water, and will drain them tomorrow morning in readiness for their second flushes.

Finally Jedi Mind Fuck - dragging out the fourth flush….

That was yesterday, today I picked that big one….

…I thought that might be the last of the Jedis, but there’s a few still left in there hiding in the shadows.

When they’re done, I’ll let you know!

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Hi, back again just with some final details for the first flushes of TAT Wombat and Albino Trinity.

I have dehydrated the whole lot, so here’s the weigh in photos starting with the TAT Wombat coming in at 58g…..

… and the Albino Trinity at 53g….

That is a very nice haul for first flushes!

The Jedi Mind Fuck is slowing down but still producing. Here’s more of the fourth flush…

So, right now, the JMF is still finishing up, but the TAT and AT are completely done. I soaked them with some water for 12 hours then drained them and made them ready for a second flush.

The Albino Trinity tub was easier to deal with because the cake was in one intact piece. Here it is after soaking…

I cut some bubble wrap to size, disinfected it with plenty of Isopropyl Alcohol, made sure it was dry (!) , sprayed the substrate with some water (making certain that it was actually water, NOT Isopropyl) and laid one sheet, bubble side down, lightly over the top of the substrate…

The TAT Wombat was more tricky due to the number of pieces that the cake had broken into…

You might remember that I was concerned that the substrate surface had developed a ‘stroma’ so I decided to break up the overlay with a disinfected poker…..

… I gave it a good spray with the water mister then I laid a sheet of bubble wrap. The idea is to create a micro-climate under the wrap. The spaces between the bubbles allow air to flow….

Hopefully ’Bubblewrap tek’ will stop the mushrooms growing on the underside… we shall see!

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