Sorry about that mate I pope my seeds in tissue and when they cracked I put them in root riot cubes wich were soaked in phed water wich had been standin for 24hrs. The cubes were then put in unheated propagater 24hrs later they poped up. Wich was this morning. The water in the barrel that has been standin for 24hrs wich was phed to 5.8 wich is now 6.4 is the water I'm going to use 1st off with no notes just the ph down. I was planning depending on what u recommend putting them into system today or tomorrow. Also I dnt think iv received the info from blue about posting photos. I did read sumthin about taptalk. I really ent to put up sum photos cause photos say that words carnt. And I'm well happy now I no how to use ppm mter