Old Reviews bio nova supermix autoflower

[A4]

Hey Servadac, dude you have a jungle in their. Are you sure your name isn't Tarzan? That picture on 23 is Calcium deficiency and on 24, if you look about middle of the picture there is a large fan leaf with the lime green in between the veins. That looks like magnesium deficiency. Now, per what you were readin on Muddy's post(who is a grow God around here by the way) is absolutely correct. You are going to see some lower fan leaves begin dying off and it will slowly move up the plant as it reaches it's final stages of life. But, what you are seeing is the early stages of Cal/Mag deficiencies. I read in your first post that you weren't testing the ph of the soil. It is quite possible your ph has gotten a little out and is causing some lockout. I don't know if you have the ability to check the ph of your soil but I would suggest it. Regardless, I would be supplementing with some Cal/Mag. If you weren't so far in to flowering I would suggest you foliar feed them with 10ml/gallon but at this point you don't want any moisture getting in the buds.

Are you catching the water that runs out of your plant and checking the ph of this? That is important so to do the calculation for example. If you feed the plants at 6.5 and you catch the water coming out of the bottom and it is 7.0 you can assume that your actual soil ph is 7.5(x+6.5/2=7.0)<- I know you understand this. This is not perfect but it will get you pretty close without actually testing the soil. I would highly suggest this as nutrient uptake at this point is critical for bud development.

I hope that helps!

 

[Servadac]

Hey Servadac, dude you have a jungle in their. Are you sure your name isn't Tarzan? That picture on 23 is Calcium deficiency and on 24, if you look about middle of the picture there is a large fan leaf with the lime green in between the veins. That looks like magnesium deficiency. Now, per what you were readin on Muddy's post(who is a grow God around here by the way) is absolutely correct. You are going to see some lower fan leaves begin dying off and it will slowly move up the plant as it reaches it's final stages of life. But, what you are seeing is the early stages of Cal/Mag deficiencies. I read in your first post that you weren't testing the ph of the soil. It is quite possible your ph has gotten a little out and is causing some lockout. I don't know if you have the ability to check the ph of your soil but I would suggest it. Regardless, I would be supplementing with some Cal/Mag. If you weren't so far in to flowering I would suggest you foliar feed them with 10ml/gallon but at this point you don't want any moisture getting in the buds.

Are you catching the water that runs out of your plant and checking the ph of this? That is important so to do the calculation for example. If you feed the plants at 6.5 and you catch the water coming out of the bottom and it is 7.0 you can assume that your actual soil ph is 7.5(x+6.5/2=7.0)<- I know you understand this. This is not perfect but it will get you pretty close without actually testing the soil. I would highly suggest this as nutrient uptake at this point is critical for bud development.

I hope that helps!

Howdy and thanks again A4, i will run down to my local grow shop to get some cal/ mag from bio nova. And will check my ph run out (cuz im not doing so but now seems obvious to do so !! newbie error). Should i use a stimulator like plagron's green sensation or cuz im tight on budget just stick with pk 13/14 ? It does help !

peace

 

[44Fab]

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Are you catching the water that runs out of your plant and checking the ph of this? That is important so to do the calculation for example. If you feed the plants at 6.5 and you catch the water coming out of the bottom and it is 7.0 you can assume that your actual soil ph is 7.5(x+6.5/2=7.0)<- I know you understand this. This is not perfect but it will get you pretty close without actually testing the soil. I would highly suggest this as nutrient uptake at this point is critical for bud development.

I hope that helps!

Thats great Info dude !! Will do that when im at home, thanks :High 5:

 

[A4]

Should i use a stimulator like plagron's green sensation or cuz im tight on budget just stick with pk 13/14 ? It does help !

This question I can't answer, unfortunately I know nothing about the products. Since you are so close to the end I would stick with what you are doing and just add the cal/mag supplement.

 

[Servadac]

Thats great Info dude !! Will do that when im at home, thanks :High 5:

Ph test didnt work out great for me, cuz they fed yesterday, the little water left in tray was too colored brown so the result was unreadable ( i reckon you gotta test straight away when watering ; and even there i imagine the test water would be too discolored ) ill try it again friday

This question I can't answer, unfortunately I know nothing about the products. Since you are so close to the end I would stick with what you are doing and just add the cal/mag supplement.

well oops, too late... symptom was spreading

My growshop dealer (who has only done once autoflowers and lets say an 'oldskool' 'regulars only' kinda bloke; which i dont bash bty) was more on a increase your feed to fix deficiency - in a nice mannered good vibed discussion after showing also the photos.

Somehow i didnt want to go out empty handed and did decide to use a stimulant notably plagrons green sensation instead of the bionova's pk 13/14 (damm 47€ 250ml). Which means another litre bottle of supermix should be acquired also. Infact it costs 18€ a lt.

Now on a Super Size me diet; babies got an extra feeding today ;

06 august -> growth + 51 -> added 50ml supermix and 20ml of plagron's green sensation stimulant for 10 litres of water at 6 ph; hygro = 45%, temp day 27 degrees, night = 20 degrees.

Hope this dr. greenthumb diagnostic and remedy works out fine i will wait till friday for inspection and if all is good plants will receive 75 - 100 ml of supermix and 10ml green sensation per 10 litres of water at ph 6.

And that i dont regret not following your advice A4 and other members likes !!

peace

edit: i just noticed i fucked up and gave them double dose of green sensation stimulant :no:

 

[Servadac]

what up Servadac ....looking good :five:......+reps my friend sub'd

hey CGR thanks for encouragement and rep, hope all will turn out fine for my first grow

need

 

[Servadac]

hi all well friday became thursday

update -> well didnt get worse natural yellowing and falling of lower small leaves and internodal middle fan leaves here and there on a majority of plants (aging) but one plant only has serious calcium deficiency and one plant only has serious magnesium deficency.

Bizare they all had same feeding light, got moved around, air, light, container and medium.

I will inspect in 2 to 3 days the evolution to reajust or not nutriment feeding (technicaly ill try to stable it a 75ml per 10lt water and might have to water every 2 days ; btw using around 21 litres per feeding). Can the sick ones contaminate the others ? photos lights on, before feeding.

sick ones a) b)
couple of photos
group photos

08 august -> growth +53 -> Hygro = 52% ; Temp day = 27 degrees, night = 19 degrees -> feeding added 100ml supermix and 10ml of green sensation stimulant per 10 liters of water ph 6.2; no trimming just clense around the soil off allen leaves.

run out test would of been around 5.6 so so 6.2+5.6/2=5.9 soil ph (is this ok?)

peace

 

[A4]

Can the sick ones contaminate the others ? photos lights on, before feeding.

No, not with deficiencies. With fungus and spores, yes, but in your case you have nothing to worry about.

run out test would of been around 5.6 so so 6.2+5.6/2=5.9 soil ph (is this ok?)

Yes, that looks quite low for soil and explains why you are having nutrient issues. If you look at the chart below you will see that Ca and Mg don't get taken up so well below 6.5 in soil. If you were running a soilless mix such as coco or hydro then you would want your ph lower but in your case you should be shooting for 6.3 to 6.8. So, in this case adding more nutrients is actually going to have an adverse effect. The nutrients won't be taken up into the plant and will sit in the soil and turn to salts thus causing more problems. I would try to slowly ease your water/feed ph back up with every feeding. Say, on the next feeding/water shoot for 6.8 or so which would bring your soil back to ~ 6.3 or 6.4 and will allow some of the nutrients to begin getting back into the roots again.

 

[Servadac]

Thanks for the great info again A4, lol you remind me when i havé no rolling papers left i smoke with A4 paper ! this Time i will follow your advice for sure. Cheers again my friend.

 

[A4]

You must be a light weight, I prefer A2 myself. I suppose A4 will do until you get those plants harvested. Then you will be rolling with A0!