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[9bear]

Howdy folks hope everyone's having a fine evening.

Hey Jraven Burning the night oil ?? I guess it's not 1:30 am by you .

 

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Woke up with a bad case of the drys but while I have your attention Skellie there's spelling error on one of your tags WEAK LINK ?? And were can a I find your recipe on tint ??

Oh you spotted an error in the weak link article? Please tell me where.......though i think its too late for me to fix it now anways (edit runs out in 7 days) Grab the tincture recipe...just a sec

 

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Hey Jraven Burning the night oil ?? I guess it's not 1:30 am by you .

The hard part for you is gonna be finding the suitable booze....ideally 195proof everclear or graves 195proof, high test moonshine, or at least 151 rum or everclear is what you need to make green dragon.

 

[9bear]

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At the bottom of your page It says under the heading WEAK LINK " raining yourself " I believe you meant to say Training yourself etc .

 

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Woke up with a bad case of the drys but while I have your attention Skellie there's spelling error on one of your tags WEAK LINK ?? And were can a I find your recipe on tint ??

Originally posted by member Cres aka Krk of Highrise Seeds

The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised)

Here is the very successful result of a considerable amount of research into the elusive and magical Green Dragon.

This is a simple and efficient 4 Step process.

Requirements:
1/8oz high quality cannabis
2 oz Bacardi Rum – 151 proof, or 195 everclear


Process Summary:

1. Chop cannabis very fine (coffee grinder works great)

2. Place in a shallow pan (a sheet of aluminum foil works great) and bake at 250F for 25 minutes.

3. Remove from oven and place cannabis in 2 oz of 151 proof rum (use a small wide mouth mason jar)

4. Simmer in a water bath for 20 minutes. Maintain temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture between 168 - 170°F.

5. Strain the mixture and store.


Dosage:
One milliliiter (one full eyedropper) is very nice. Two puts you in space. But you must self-titrate (test it on yourself) as each batch will be slightly different. Effects take up to 1.5 hours to begin (at least in myself) and lasted for 5 hours (1 dropper) to 7-8 hours (2 droppers).

I place one eyedropper (1ml) of Green Dragon in a small glass. I then add a small amount of water (1-2 ml) and drink. Do this on an empty stomach for best results (about 20-30 minutes before eating a main meal is good).


Process details—references and rationalizations:
1. Chop the cannabis
More surface area gives means a faster and more efficient extraction.

2. Bake the cannabis.
This converts THCA to THC via a decarboxylation reaction.

In whole-plant cannabis, THC content is expressed as THCA (tetrahydrocannabolic acid) prior to decarboxylation into THC, which takes place when cannabis is heated in the oven, and smoked or vaporized ingestion. THCA is a mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory but does not have good affinity with our CB1 receptors, so in order to make a THC-rich tincture that has many of the same therapeutic effects as smoked ingestion (including rapid absorption, quick relief and ease of self-titration), we must convert the THCA in the plant matter into THC prior to extracting it through an alcohol soak. (from Vancouver Island Compassion Society http://thevics.com/cannamist.htm)

THC vaporizes at about 380°F. We want to heat the cannabis to convert THCA to THC, but keep the temperature under 380°F. That is why 325°F is used. Between four and five minutes your oven (and house) will start to smell very strong. This is the time to remove the cannabis from the oven.

Notice also that there is considerable misinformation regarding heating the cannabis. It is true that you don't have to heat it to extract both THC and THCA, but the amount of THC in whole plant preparations is relatively small compared to after decarboxylation of the THCA. So if you want to maximize the strength of your tincture you must heat the cannabis prior to extraction.

3. Use the highest proof alcohol available.
Where I live this is Bacardi 151. The more alcohol the more efficient the extraction will be.

4. Simmer the mixture.
This is one of the areas that seems to be most debated. Many guides call for placing the normal cannabis into the alcohol and waiting 2 – 6 weeks. The main concern with heating the alcohol is that it is “explosive” (not exactly true...it is however flammable).

The purpose of the simmering is to heat the alcohol mixture to improve extraction rates and efficiencies. Heating during extraction increases the motion of the molecules (basic physics/chemistry) and drastically decreases extraction times. The boiling point of pure ethanol is 173°F (78°C). We will use the water bath to heat the rum/cannabis mixture to just below the boiling point of ethanol.

Heating the alcohol mixture can be done very safely using a hot water bath. You will need an accurate candy or quick read thermometer. Place about 1 inch of water in a wide, vertical-edged pan (9” diameter x 3” high). Bring the water to a low simmer. The rum/cannabis mixture should be in a small (1 pint) mason jar. Do NOT cover the jar.

Put the thermometer into the mason jar and place into the simmering water bath. Bring the temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture to about 170°F. The alcohol should be just barely boiling.

You should have the oven fan on high. You will notice that any alcohol fumes are mixed with water vapor from the water bath and vented out the fan. This combined with the fact that you are trying not to boil the ethanol makes the process quite safe.

5. Strain and store.
When you are finished with the extraction you will be left with about 1oz of green dragon tincture after you have strained the extract. Notice that one ounce of the alcohol has evaporated. See the tips below for a good way to strain the tincture.

A standard eyedropper will transfer about 1ml (or 1 gram) of liquid. There are 29 milliliters in one ounce. So you should end up with about 30 or so full eyedroppers (30 milliliters) of Green Dragon.

The liquid should be dark brownish-green and smell like cannabis.

6. Dosage. Titration.
Everybody is different. It takes me between 30-90 minutes to feel the effects of Green Dragon (depending on how much food is in my stomach).

I had tried a tincture someone had made using the cold extraction method with the same amount of cannabis and found that 5 ml (5 full eyedroppers) did pretty much nothing.

Using my Green Dragon technique I find that one dropper will bring effects on in 30-90 minutes and last 5 hours with 1.5 hours of lingering aftereffects.

Two droppers gave me a "spiritual dose" (as strong as any brownie I ever had). Effects lasted 7-8 hours with lingering effects for 2 more hours.

This means that 1/8oz of good cannabis yields about 30-34 doses of tincture (1 dropperful is really all I need).

 

[9bear]

The hard part for you is gonna be finding the suitable booze....ideally 195proof everclear or graves 195proof, high test moonshine, or at least 151 rum or everclear is what you need to make green dragon.

I'll just get Bushie to send me a bottle What about using Iso . ??

 

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At the bottom of your page It says under the heading WEAK LINK " raining yourself " I believe you meant to say Training yourself etc .

Ahh in my sig....that just the way the links to the threads lay out. If you hover your mouse over it the whole link will be shown.

 

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[Eclectic Elle]

Morale of this story? Be careful!! Start at 1ml and raise as your comfort level requires. Each batch needs to be tested individually, and each effect explored....some you might not find to be pleasurable!! One i did made your heart beat so fast you thought you might have a heart attack!!

Will that depend on what srtain's used, or is it just the luck of the draw?

The hard part for you is gonna be finding the suitable booze....ideally 195proof everclear or graves 195proof, high test moonshine, or at least 151 rum or everclear is what you need to make green dragon.

I want to try it as well, but I need to grow something high in cbd first so with any luck I'll be able to source some 151 before then. Seconded on the recipe please - I think I have it somewhere but I don't know where I put it...

 

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I'll just get Bushie to send me a bottle What about using Iso . ??

Good luck with cross border shipped!! Maybe! Though it is said to be available in Alberta, so if you know folks out there you should be able to get it. A 60 pounder would last a long, long time. I am fortunate to have friend that can get it for me.