Irie Genetics -- Test Run of 5 Mystery Seeds

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This Grow Log features Irie Genetics Mystery Seeds. I am growing 5 unknown seeds. I don't know anything about the seeds.

Rasta Jeff is working on a few new projects and testing them in a variety of Grow Styles helps determine strain/cultivar viability.
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ExNavyInSTL
Day 21 (04/11/2022) - End of Week 2 of Veg

VPD Issues:
* VPD still too high. Not Dangerous though.
* Added the second humidifier to help with VPD

Ugly Leaves:
* Original damaged leaves now look like Ca or P deficiency
* Each plant will get a 250ml mixture of Cal/Mag

The Rez:
* pH had risen to 6.86 from 6.21
* I used 16 ml of pH Down to get to 5.98
* I don't mind the drift because I think it opens more nutrient doors at different pH levels.
* This is the lowest I have taken it.
* Plan to go to 5.8 pH and let drift up with the next nutrient addition.
* After all adjustments, the E.C. is now 1.95.

Coco Coir:
* This is my first grow with coco
* I buffered it well with Calcium Nitrate per Jack's Nutrients instructions
* That's why I was surprised if this is true Ca deficiency

AutoPots - Bottom Watering:
* Also, this is my first run with bottom-watering AutoPots.
* I will continue feeding on the top for a while longer

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ExNavyInSTL
Day 22 (04/12/2022) - Begin Week 3 of Veg

Cal/Mag:

I gave a lite dose (100 ml) to counter the apparent calcium deficiency.

Calcium Nitrate:

To help with yellowing leaves, I gave them Nitrogen and Calcium via Calcium Nitrate.
Dose: 0.150 EC (approx 75 ppm)

AutoPots:

My guess is that the bottom-up feeding hasn't met with the roots yet.

VPD:

VPD is improved since adding the second humidifier.
I adjusted them to reach for 65%, since 60% was barely getting the tent to maintain 54% RH
If I maintain a leaf temperature around 75ºF, I need between 64 - 66% RH.

DLI:

Maintain around 35 DLI until flower.
Although, I am likely to start edging up soon.
There are still two more weeks until the flip.


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ExNavyInSTL
Day 23 (04/13/22) - All Sorts of Nonsence

Biggest News of the Day:

It was "Haircut Day" in the grow tent (see photos). Yep, I hacked away at Day 23. I watched a Bill Ward video and he suggested doing this to give the undergrowth some light. I might have done this a week early. We'll see.

Feed & Treat:

Fed them their normal mix (Jack's, etc) but added in some biostimulants:

Stout MSA - mono-sicilic acid
PeptisideSP - Peptides and Amino Acids
Super Boost - Just using this stuff up. Not concentrated enough for the price
Mr. Fulvic - Fulvic Acid
Recharge - Microbial Help

New Product: Prime Superior Drench - Google for More Info

I recently purchased the concentrated version of a product called "Prime Superior Drench." It is a proprietary mix that introduces the natural symbiotic fungus "Beauveria bassiana" into the plant.

Here's the sales pitch:

The fungus is isolated from plants, grows with your plants, and brings multiple benefits to them. This can include many important properties that matter to you, including increases in yield, increases in quality, and increases in photosynthesis and metabolism. With cannabis plants, Prime Superior products have been shown to increase the levels of cannabinoids and terpenes, as well as yields. With produce, such as strawberries and tomatoes, we have seen higher Brix scores.

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ExNavyInSTL said:
Day 23 (04/13/22) - All Sorts of Nonsence

Biggest News of the Day:

It was "Haircut Day" in the grow tent (see photos). Yep, I hacked away at Day 23. I watched a Bill Ward video and he suggested doing this to give the undergrowth some light. I might have done this a week early. We'll see.

Feed & Treat:

Fed them their normal mix (Jack's, etc) but added in some biostimulants:

Stout MSA - mono-sicilic acid
PeptisideSP - Peptides and Amino Acids
Super Boost - Just using this stuff up. Not concentrated enough for the price
Mr. Fulvic - Fulvic Acid
Recharge - Microbial Help

New Product: Prime Superior Drench - Google for More Info

I recently purchased the concentrated version of a product called "Prime Superior Drench." It is a proprietary mix that introduces the natural symbiotic fungus "Beauveria bassiana" into the plant.

Here's the sales pitch:

The fungus is isolated from plants, grows with your plants, and brings multiple benefits to them. This can include many important properties that matter to you, including increases in yield, increases in quality, and increases in photosynthesis and metabolism. With cannabis plants, Prime Superior products have been shown to increase the levels of cannabinoids and terpenes, as well as yields. With produce, such as strawberries and tomatoes, we have seen higher Brix scores.

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Absolutely love the details and photos you include, I'm just on my second auto grow and haven't dealt with ec, leaf temp etc and growing in soil, nice and easy. Learnt from many mistakes in the first one but on my next I'll be paying attention to your blogs finer details. Good luck mate
 
ExNavyInSTL
Day 24 - Notes and Photos

After the haircut, yesterday they looked great. 3 of 5 were praying to the heavens.

There is some leaf-tip burn. I forgot to account for the extra nutrients in the PeptideSP.

VPD is back in check - right in the "perfect" zone
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ExNavyInSTL
Day 25 -- E.C. Crisis

* Irie #5 (red bucket) kept looking worse and worse overnight.
* I measured the E.C. & pH and discovered the E.C. was in the Stratosphere at 5.56 (2780 PPM)
* One gallon at a time, I poured 2 gallons of R.O. water through the Coco
* It's now down to high, but reasonable, 2.1 EC (1050 ppm) and pH is 6.21
* The plan is to lower new inputs to 1.8 with a little extra Calcium to make up for flush losses
* I clipped the ugly bits off. Hopefully, a crisis was averted

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ExNavyInSTL
Thanks for the comment.

I just posted about a situation that I discovered today. Mistakes seem to always find ways to reinvent themselves. :yoinks:


Pearl-Anne said:
Absolutely love the details and photos you include, I'm just on my second auto grow and haven't dealt with ec, leaf temp etc and growing in soil, nice and easy. Learnt from many mistakes in the first one but on my next I'll be paying attention to your blogs finer details. Good luck mate
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ExNavyInSTL
Special Note -- Stand-Alone Calcium

This is the calcium I bought (see pic). It's chelated, and it is a stand-alone element. (0-0-0)

It's good for when you just want to add calcium and not add nitrogen (Cal-Nit) or magnesium (Cal-Mag)

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ExNavyInSTL
Day 27 - Pics (04/17/22)

The plants are starting to look healthy again.
I made a mixture of Calcium (low ppm) to help with Coco calcium issues.

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ExNavyInSTL
Day 28 - Notes

  • Definitely putting them under early stress.
  • They just got their second haircut today. I am really curious about the undergrowth.
  • Although, I accept this could mean 5 weeks of Veg for recovery.
  • We shall see. I have 7 days to decide.
  • This is fun. I feel like Dr. Frankenstein.
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ExNavyInSTL
Day 30 - Notes & Stats for Week 4 (so far)

* Everything looks healthy.
* Lots of undergrowth

Made a new Batch of Nutrients as follows:

1) 3 gal RO Water
2) 10.8 g of Jack's A
3) 3.6 g of Epsom
4) 7.2 g Jack's B
5) 5 ml Tribus
6) 5 ml Mr. Fulvic
7) 15 ml Stout mono silicic acid (MSA)
8) 15 ml Bio-cozyme
9) 3 ml Humboldt Enzymes

This produced a very acidic mix, so I used 2 ml of pH Up to level at 5.88

(Note: left low to help bring down rez in the end product)

1) E.C. was 2.2 (as in 2 high)
2) Added 3/4 gal of RO to get to 1.8 EC

Added this mixture to Rez Tank and that settled at:

1) 1.79 EC
2) 6.27 pH

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ExNavyInSTL
Day 32 - (04/22/22) - Notes

  1. Today, four samples were sent to Farmer Freeman for some sex testing.
  2. Only 4 because that was my intentional number when I ordered the test, but I just couldn’t say No to the #5 Runt (at the time).
  3. Overall, I am pleased with the growth so far.
  4. They seem to have finally connected up with AutoPot’s style of feeding.
  5. I haven’t watered in two days, and there has been no "droop."
  6. I also changed out the Mosquito Bits bag in the reservoir.
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ExNavyInSTL
Day 33 - Photos & Notes

Gave each plant 200ml of straight calcium with an EC 0.289 @ 6.4 pH.

- 145 ppm on 500 scale
- 202 ppm on 700 scale

Made a batch of my own Cal/Mag from EDTA Calcium (1.5g), Epsom (1 tbsp) and Fulvic Acid (0.5g)

- EC 2.16
- 6.21 pH

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ExNavyInSTL
Day 34 - Before & After Last Haircut (3rd) In Veg

Notes

* Last Pruning Before the Flip

* Gave 100 ML Homemade Cal/Mag Each

Made 3 gallons of Nutrients (Totals are X 3 Dose for 3 gallons):

* 9g Jack’s A

* 6g Jack’s B

* 3g Epsom

* 3 ml Mr. Fulvic

* 10 ML Stout MSA (mono-silicic acid)

Note: Lowered from 3.6g (A), 2.4g (B), 1.2g (Epsom) per gallon to 3g,2g,1g per gallon to make less "hot."

Results of Batch:

* EC 1.76

* pH 4.68

* Left Acidic to balance out the Rez, which had drifted to 6.69 pH

* When poured into the rez, pH batch only lowered to 6.55 pH

* I added 7ml of pH Down to finalize at 6.10 pH and EC 1.85

Tank Status:

* 3 gallons raised the tank from 9” to 14” deep of liquid nutrients


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ExNavyInSTL
Day 36 - LST Begins

I did give them my Cal/Mag after all. 100 ml

Every other day may be enough to get them ready for the flower flip.

Yesterday (Day 35 PM) was also the first day of LST.

- Main Stem Bent Over Last night.

- Leaf tucking this morning.

Photos within minutes of training.

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ExNavyInSTL
The life of a seed tester... BUMMER news. I got the sex tests back, and only 1 of 4 (possibly 2) are female. Ugh!

Since I have quite a while from the Red Bucket presenting sex, I ordered a test for that one. The next time I do this, it will happen at the Solo Cup Stage.

I also ordered 4 shut-off valves so that I can reconfigure my AutoPots to be individually controlled. My tent of 5 could be a tent of 1. So, I want to pull out the other pots and get them cleaned up.

Find the positive... less trimming.

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