Completed F | T |F Growery: Ace Seeds Zamaldelica x Kali China

Dutch Passion Lemon Z

Smoke Report

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This was the general look of all the bud after being cured. Everything dried in roughly 5 days at 60f/55rh.

After drying I set it in a sealed buckets for two weeks for taking weight. Overall it was only 8oz between all 3 plants with the shorter pheno having a low calyx to leaf ratio.

After a month long cure this is a complex, for me, to describe type of high.

The bouquet of both is nearly identical. Pungent, citrus, fruity, with an earthiness. While the taste is varied with hints of matcha, mango, licorice, root beer, and wood.

They are not oily but the Kali China pheno is crusted in trichomes and gives a lot of kief just grinding. The buds finish in a light but solid nugs. Buds are a nice dark green with bright orange pistils. The grind produces a light but moist crumbly bud.

This is my happy, horny, spiritual, pain relieving, mellow vibe, any time smoke.

The hash plant is my spiritual, pain relieving smoke. Something about the thick smoke with it's weird wood/earth taste and sweet hints of mango is delicious. My wife and a few other women reported pain and spasm relief with a gentle mood stabilizing effects and they enjoy it for menstruations. Like the other pheno, the high is mellow and gentle with no paranoia or anxiety. I don't fall asleep thankfully but I'm not wired just in a neutral but calm space. The high hits within 20 minutes and takes me somewhere I'm I feel blessed to feel and the other is like a blessing of existence. I like meditating with this hash plant.

The other plant is similar but it has been amazing for the sex drive. It's a light uplifting high that could make a house fire feel like a bonfire and a picnic. It's a happy, jocular smoke that I feel in the head. Makes a bad day a decent day and doesn't leave me tired. Otherwise in most ways they are similar and really pleasant to smoke.
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Waira
:spels: :dancer::spels: = beauties Damien, if this is representative of her kin then ACE is bangin' it with this cross!

Any noteworthy aroma during veg/ early bloom so far? The description of her aroma profile still makes me drool,.... I can't wait to see this crop in prime time bloom -:hump:
Some fine work going down here mate! :d5:

... this is my first look at the new Blog system, which is way overdue,.... thank you for doing the tutorial, I'll need to go check that out! :thanks:
 
Death The Cultivator
Waira said:
:spels: :dancer::spels: = beauties Damien, if this is representative of her kin then ACE is bangin' it with this cross!

Any noteworthy aroma during veg/ early bloom so far? The description of her aroma profile still makes me drool,.... I can't wait to see this crop in prime time bloom -:hump:
Some fine work going down here mate! :d5:

... this is my first look at the new Blog system, which is way overdue,.... thank you for doing the tutorial, I'll need to go check that out! :thanks:
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I thought the Malawi x Panama was good but this limited edition has been great so far.

I am getting rotting fruit at the moment but it could the JH. I haven't gotten any aromas just sniffing or rubbing but I'm ready.

If you have questions about the blog just message me. I am glad you commented though because I want to get a group blog/series going that focuses on sativas/photo growers. It would have featured journals, guides, and help highlight the growers that contribute.

I have a small list with @RivetGrrl @TheMongol so. Any suggestions for people that might be down would be cool.
 
Waira
:drool: I think I gushed about AC stuff already at your regular thread? Of the pure Sativa's, Malawi interests me most, but not sure I can pull her off,.. Panama is faster, likely do-able,... Golden Tiger, probably dreamin'! I still want to try Desfran/Destroyer too, but after talking with a visiting DP grow master here, he says it's about a 50/50 toss to get the Oaxaca pheno that has that unique superb aroma, otherwise is the looooong haul Thai pheno,.... this holds true for the auto versions as well... in fact, he said he usually shit-cans the Thai auto pheno' soon as he can ID them,... World of Seeds offers that KoChang Thai landrace too....
However, the ACE crosses (PCK) with Malawi and Panama are looking like fine choices, but then again, they are crosses,... That Killer Malawi, I think it's worth the risk for me to try! What a rare treat that would be to launch friends into low-Earth orbit with- :rofl:
....... Rotten fruit, 95% certain that the JH!
... nice idea on the Sativa Blog group Damien, I'll think on that,... Oh! -- @Dudeski for sure, he recently finished some fine-ass landracey Sativa's from Swami!
 
Death The Cultivator
I'm still pissed I didn't keep a mother of MxP such a superb high at 11 weeks with a month cure that put me in my own world with millions of thoughts. I was smarter and I had two phenos with one having super intense lemon smells and energetic buzz and the other was a heavy earthy musk. I read so many books on it.

I do want to start preserving my favorite breeders genetics, especially Landraces like Panama Red, and building a personal seed bank. Plants likes these deserve to be kept imo.

I asked dubi from Ace about being a vendor here. Idk when he'll answer been some weeks.

Well find more sativa lovers in due time. We get everyone blogging and the we'll have a real clean look.
 
Dudeski
Waira said:
:drool: I think I gushed about AC stuff already at your regular thread? Of the pure Sativa's, Malawi interests me most, but not sure I can pull her off,.. Panama is faster, likely do-able,... Golden Tiger, probably dreamin'! I still want to try Desfran/Destroyer too, but after talking with a visiting DP grow master here, he says it's about a 50/50 toss to get the Oaxaca pheno that has that unique superb aroma, otherwise is the looooong haul Thai pheno,.... this holds true for the auto versions as well... in fact, he said he usually shit-cans the Thai auto pheno' soon as he can ID them,... World of Seeds offers that KoChang Thai landrace too....
However, the ACE crosses (PCK) with Malawi and Panama are looking like fine choices, but then again, they are crosses,... That Killer Malawi, I think it's worth the risk for me to try! What a rare treat that would be to launch friends into low-Earth orbit with- :rofl:
....... Rotten fruit, 95% certain that the JH!
... nice idea on the Sativa Blog group Damien, I'll think on that,... Oh! -- @Dudeski for sure, he recently finished some fine-ass landracey Sativa's from Swami!
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Thanks for the tag my friend! I'm definitely a Sativa lover and interested in the blogs. Where is the tutorial located?

Swami gear has been very good for me. But the Ace has my attention and definitely on my short list of ones to run.

Thanks Damien!
 
Death The Cultivator
@Dudeski I'm not sure where it's located at the moment but Waira may.

I've heard very little of Swami but they're going on my list with Indian Landrace Exchange. Just looked them up, I almost went poor lol.

@RivetGrrl I think if we get a good group together, starting small, we can create some series on photos/sativas but it can all be discussed in time. Thanks for looking out!
 
BISCUITS
I have grown plenty of long flowering pure sativas indoors 12/12 for the whole grow and had good success. I just popped an original Kali Mist seed from 2008 and a Neville’s Haze that is also about ten years old and so far so good. You cannot lose with Ace seeds ALL of their stuff is top notch that I have grown. Their A5 haze is to die for along with Malawi, Congo,Orient Express,Golden Tiger,Thai Chi all of which were manageable under a 12/12 cycle in a 2’x3’ with a 5’ ceiling. I have a Kali China freebie that may get wet soon also. Their auto Malawi and Zamaldelica are good too. Also I don’t think Dubi answers DM’s either fyi. He is pretty active and accessible over at ICMAG.
 
Death The Cultivator
They haven't disappointed me for the second time. I grew their Malawi x Panama twice and loved it but neglected to keep a cut. I normally message him at IC and asked if he would come here but he doesn't want to manage two forums.

I agree with their preservationist ideals and breeding methods. I'll eventually collect them all and learn to breed.
 
Ribbzzy
Nice grow. I'm happy we have another Ace Seeds aficionado here. I grew out both the Auto Malawi, and the Auto Zamaldelica in 2019, the Zam in particular blew my mind. Now got a Golden Tiger photo period on the go, who is shaping up to be quite a plant.

These guys are flying the flag for me at the moment, their indepth analysis of the growing cylce, the terp and THC testing, the new forray into the Auto world, and their strain bank, exciting times for us growers, and the old world genetics.

Any plans for another Ace run?
 
Death The Cultivator
Ribbzzy said:
Nice grow. I'm happy we have another Ace Seeds aficionado here. I grew out both the Auto Malawi, and the Auto Zamaldelica in 2019, the Zam in particular blew my mind. Now got a Golden Tiger photo period on the go, who is shaping up to be quite a plant.

These guys are flying the flag for me at the moment, their indepth analysis of the growing cylce, the terp and THC testing, the new forray into the Auto world, and their strain bank, exciting times for us growers, and the old world genetics.

Any plans for another Ace run?
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I have two ZxK mothers growing at the moment that aren't ready to clone yet.

I still have limited edition Bangi Congo x Panama and Nepal Jam x Orient Express seeds that I'm going to germ soon.

Thanks for the kind words. They are a great breeder whose principles of preservation, open pollination, and transparency has become a standard to me. Kiwik Seeds, The Real Seed Company, and a few others on Ace's site all offer some amazing Landrace genetics.
 
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