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Jean-O's Show Grows 2024 "What the Fuck! Where's My Dog?!?" A Jean-o's Genetics Test Grow
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Congrats with the youngin' 
I've decided today will be day 1 for both of them as they're both totally above ground now. Plus, it makes it easier for me lmao. 5 days total from dropping them directly into the soil, no soak or anything.
Just realized I never updated here, oops!
I think everything is going pretty well overall. Now that the 2x2 is mostly bare its holding right where I want it to be, which is awesome. Humidity could be a smidgen higher for the seedling/veg stages but I'm tired of fighting with it and its in range, so good enough. Stuck a cookies tub over the two WTF beans as a humidity dome and calling it good.
As far as testing the Real Growers "Grow Dots" goes, I'm really loving them so far, and it seems the WMD are as well. I was absolutely expecting nute burn with them, especially since I started with
OF as my base soil, and using a full dosage of the GD. I think I remember @Jean-O mentioning that his girls in general tend to be heavy feeders, so if that's the case that may also be playing in. I think I may go ahead and use them on the WTF twins as well to see if its strain dependent or what. If it goes well a second time I will probably order more to try on other strains. As far as care with them, I fed Recharge and Silica a few times at the very beginning, from germ through the first day or two after sprouting. Otherwise, they have just been getting plain PH'ed water when needed. I'm very optimistic about how they are growing, and the potential for a "water only" product that doesn't involve shopping for a bunch of amendments, storing them, mixing soil, storing cooking soil, etc. As much as I am drawn to organics for both the results and ease of use (water only), all of the above are major drawbacks for me so this may end up being a better solution for me if it works out.
I know I mentioned it yesterday in my main thread, but I am now running with the @HLG 100R in the 2x2 and I'm really loving this light. I can tell even with my awful eyes that the spectrum on this light is far beyond the Spider Farmer lights that were in there before. This is backed up by the fact that I'm having to use a completely different white balance than I was previously. I have it hanging as high as I can in the tent (about 13in above the top of the 5gal WMD, which is a bit closer than suggested by the manufacturer, but I can't get it any further unless I remove the bin from under the plants and I'd really rather not have to deal with that. If it becomes an issue I will, just prefer not to.) and intend to just let the plants grow into it. The 5gal WMD is starting to show hairs though so I think she will be moving to the big girl tent before too much longer. I do like having *just* the Jean-o gals in the 2x2 though, I'd like to be able to do full timelapse videos of my test grows start to finish. I will have to see if I can find my camcorder and tripod and the associated gear to get a timelapse going in the 4x4 as well.
I do find it interesting that the 1gal WMD is showing darker leaves than the 5gal. My working theory is that by giving them the "Suki Treatment," they have less locations in which to store the N they are uptaking, leading to heavier N loads in each leaf. I could be totally off though, not sure of the science on it. It could also be a pheno thing. I will have to retest that as well (which, I was already planning to do with the WTF anyways). There is of course also the possibility that it is due to the smaller volume of the pot. While the concentration is the same as the 5gal, the total amount of media is much smaller, and more frequent waterings may be causing the GD to release their nutrients more quickly. Further investigation will be needed.
The 5gal girl was topped at the 4th node, in a more standard treatment. I have not done any LST with her yet at all. The 1gal girl has now been topped twice, at the second and again at the following node on each top. I intend to top her one more time. I am still debating on if I will bonsai her or not. Shaping them does end up with a more even canopy, where I can keep all budsites even and facing upwards; however, not training them seems to create a bushier structure.
Again, that may be strain dependent, so I will see how she acts as she starts to catch up with her sister. It does seem that the training slows things down, both the vegetative growth in general and the onset of flower. This is a trend I've noticed across the board with my (collective) "Suki-ing" of these autos. Of course, I will continue to test this over time. Running multiples of the same strain seems to be necessary to really get solid answers though.
Photo updates below
I think everything is going pretty well overall. Now that the 2x2 is mostly bare its holding right where I want it to be, which is awesome. Humidity could be a smidgen higher for the seedling/veg stages but I'm tired of fighting with it and its in range, so good enough. Stuck a cookies tub over the two WTF beans as a humidity dome and calling it good.
As far as testing the Real Growers "Grow Dots" goes, I'm really loving them so far, and it seems the WMD are as well. I was absolutely expecting nute burn with them, especially since I started with
OF as my base soil, and using a full dosage of the GD. I think I remember @Jean-O mentioning that his girls in general tend to be heavy feeders, so if that's the case that may also be playing in. I think I may go ahead and use them on the WTF twins as well to see if its strain dependent or what. If it goes well a second time I will probably order more to try on other strains. As far as care with them, I fed Recharge and Silica a few times at the very beginning, from germ through the first day or two after sprouting. Otherwise, they have just been getting plain PH'ed water when needed. I'm very optimistic about how they are growing, and the potential for a "water only" product that doesn't involve shopping for a bunch of amendments, storing them, mixing soil, storing cooking soil, etc. As much as I am drawn to organics for both the results and ease of use (water only), all of the above are major drawbacks for me so this may end up being a better solution for me if it works out.I know I mentioned it yesterday in my main thread, but I am now running with the @HLG 100R in the 2x2 and I'm really loving this light. I can tell even with my awful eyes that the spectrum on this light is far beyond the Spider Farmer lights that were in there before. This is backed up by the fact that I'm having to use a completely different white balance than I was previously. I have it hanging as high as I can in the tent (about 13in above the top of the 5gal WMD, which is a bit closer than suggested by the manufacturer, but I can't get it any further unless I remove the bin from under the plants and I'd really rather not have to deal with that. If it becomes an issue I will, just prefer not to.) and intend to just let the plants grow into it. The 5gal WMD is starting to show hairs though so I think she will be moving to the big girl tent before too much longer. I do like having *just* the Jean-o gals in the 2x2 though, I'd like to be able to do full timelapse videos of my test grows start to finish. I will have to see if I can find my camcorder and tripod and the associated gear to get a timelapse going in the 4x4 as well.
I do find it interesting that the 1gal WMD is showing darker leaves than the 5gal. My working theory is that by giving them the "Suki Treatment," they have less locations in which to store the N they are uptaking, leading to heavier N loads in each leaf. I could be totally off though, not sure of the science on it. It could also be a pheno thing. I will have to retest that as well (which, I was already planning to do with the WTF anyways). There is of course also the possibility that it is due to the smaller volume of the pot. While the concentration is the same as the 5gal, the total amount of media is much smaller, and more frequent waterings may be causing the GD to release their nutrients more quickly. Further investigation will be needed.
The 5gal girl was topped at the 4th node, in a more standard treatment. I have not done any LST with her yet at all. The 1gal girl has now been topped twice, at the second and again at the following node on each top. I intend to top her one more time. I am still debating on if I will bonsai her or not. Shaping them does end up with a more even canopy, where I can keep all budsites even and facing upwards; however, not training them seems to create a bushier structure.
Again, that may be strain dependent, so I will see how she acts as she starts to catch up with her sister. It does seem that the training slows things down, both the vegetative growth in general and the onset of flower. This is a trend I've noticed across the board with my (collective) "Suki-ing" of these autos. Of course, I will continue to test this over time. Running multiples of the same strain seems to be necessary to really get solid answers though.
Photo updates below
5gal WMD
5gal WMD
