Extraction Tincture with vodka

Ok, your someone i like to talk to about this. I habe had this machine for a few year but only used it a few times. How does it burn off alcohol, and which 1? You have the decarb machine? If so, how does it work? I want one. Back to mbm, haven't looked into the alcohol tried vg but messy and decarb didn't work. Do you use heat, how does it work if no heat? Don't want to blow up for real of it used heat would it blow up? I assumed it used heat??? But don't know yet. Heard everclear was the best to use so was gonna use that. Can I use something weaker but still get as much as I can out?
Ok, mine has a no heat through 220f. Your saying I can do everclear on no heat, and work just as good? Site says 130 or what ever is lowest heat. If no heat does ventilation need to be as good. Was going to do in bathroom with exhaust fan on, or in garage but door closed. Bad idea?
 
Root, let me know your thoughts on this idea. I thought about doing a cold tincture for 1-2 weeks, then run it through my MBM2. I heard that heated method is better, so thought if did both I could get the benefit of both. Or would that be redundant?
Soaking your material for a week or two will be enough. You will get the chlorophyll and waxes along with the cannabinoids (which do have benefits but have a bitter taste). You will get less chlorophyll if you keep it in the freezer except for shaking 2X a day.

I wouldn't say that either the hot or cold method is better. But anytime you use heat, you can evaporate off some cannabinoids.

What I didn't like about my mbm, is how it pulverizes the material making straining a pain in the butt. I had never put alcohol in it and decarbing is a separate step.
I would Love to try one of the decarbing machines. :headbang:

Lower proof alcohols will work. Long soaks with regular shaking and vodka will eventually extract everything it can.
If time is an issue...do a 2nd run on your (cannabis) material with fresh vodka. After straining check material with a scope (like checking trichomes) to see if you got it all, a third run may be necessary.

Well ventilation and no flame when working with volatile solutions. Using a fan will help.
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Back to mbm, haven't looked into the alcohol tried vg but messy and decarb didn't work. Do you use heat, how does it work if no heat? Don't want to blow up for real of it used heat would it blow up? I assumed it used heat??? But don't know yet. Heard everclear was the best to use so was gonna use that. Can I use something weaker but still get as much as I can out?
 
Ok, your someone i like to talk to about this. I habe had this machine for a few year but only used it a few times. How does it burn off alcohol, and which 1? You have the decarb machine? If so, how does it work? I want one. Back to mbm, haven't looked into the alcohol tried vg but messy and decarb didn't work. Do you use heat, how does it work if no heat? Don't want to blow up for real of it used heat would it blow up? I assumed it used heat??? But don't know yet. Heard everclear was the best to use so was gonna use that. Can I use something weaker but still get as much as I can out?

You need to look at that link http://www.ardentcannabis.com/education/decarboxylation-myths
My experience is that MBM's heating element, located in the pitcher base, goes up to the same hot temperature, regardless of lid temp setting, and then when the contents have reached the lid setting temp, the super hot heating element shuts down.
Herb in the bottom of MBM, directly exposed to the heating element, can scorch. I can actually hear the alcohol boiling in MBMs @ 130 F when I first turn them on, even tho alcohol boils around 175 F, and if the lid doesn't fit exactly right, the alcohol level boil off to zero, and the herb scorch.

Of all the safe, commonly used solvents for home users, Vegetable glycerin is by far the worst, and can lead to wasted herb.
Oils are much better, but even strained butters lose about half the medicine to the straining process.
By far the best solvent is 190 proof everclear grain alcohol, which can remove almost 100% of the medicine with sufficient soaking.

Almost every good recipe requires that the herb be decarbed, and 240 F for 40 min is optimal.
The decarbed herb is now as potent as it will ever be, and any attempted infusion heating will degrade thc.
There are a few things you can do with decarbed herb that has been ground to powder:
(1) Mix with nut butter or nutella and use.
(2) Mix it into the oil of any recipe. I like the $1 betty crocker muffin or brownie mixes, and put the batter into mini-muffin cups, carefully weighing them to get accurate dosage.
(3) Soak with EC190 for several days with frequent shaking to make tincture which can be reduced to feco and added to anything.

The only thing I now use my MBMs for is to aid in making the tincture, and then only its grinding/stirring capability on the No Heat setting. Item (3) above eliminates this need, but is less covenient.
 
You need to look at that link http://www.ardentcannabis.com/education/decarboxylation-myths
My experience is that MBM's heating element, located in the pitcher base, goes up to the same hot temperature, regardless of lid temp setting, and then when the contents have reached the lid setting temp, the super hot heating element shuts down.
Herb in the bottom of MBM, directly exposed to the heating element, can scorch. I can actually hear the alcohol boiling in MBMs @ 130 F when I first turn them on, even tho alcohol boils around 175 F, and if the lid doesn't fit exactly right, the alcohol level boil off to zero, and the herb scorch.

Of all the safe, commonly used solvents for home users, Vegetable glycerin is by far the worst, and can lead to wasted herb.
Oils are much better, but even strained butters lose about half the medicine to the straining process.
By far the best solvent is 190 proof everclear grain alcohol, which can remove almost 100% of the medicine with sufficient soaking.

Almost every good recipe requires that the herb be decarbed, and 240 F for 40 min is optimal.
The decarbed herb is now as potent as it will ever be, and any attempted infusion heating will degrade thc.
There are a few things you can do with decarbed herb that has been ground to powder:
(1) Mix with nut butter or nutella and use.
(2) Mix it into the oil of any recipe. I like the $1 betty crocker muffin or brownie mixes, and put the batter into mini-muffin cups, carefully weighing them to get accurate dosage.
(3) Soak with EC190 for several days with frequent shaking to make tincture which can be reduced to feco and added to anything.

The only thing I now use my MBMs for is to aid in making the tincture, and then only its grinding/stirring capability on the No Heat setting. Item (3) above eliminates this need, but is less covenient.
I have seen that link. I understand decarbing, just messed it up. Bud wasn't great, more like trim. Maybe just not strong enough. I wonder if I smoke to much and need to eat more. What i made this year hasn't worked, but the stuff I made last summer worked great. Difference is this year I didn't grind up before decarb, used coconut oil instead of ghee. I use for when I go somewhere and can smoke. Go to ACC football games which I use them for mostly, so trying to get it figured out quickly. I wonder if I should go back to ghee... so still not sure how you make you ec tincture with mb2? You put decarbed bud in with ec and run no heat for 8hrs???? I can do cold method with freezer just mb2 is faster.
 
Hi friends
Today I do the first test. I made a hot run and used 25 g of steams and leafs with 200 ml vodka.
At first I decrab the material. Then I put all in a jar put the vodka on it and let it soak for 30 minutes in a hot water bath.

I tried a little bit of the tincture around 1 ml

20 minutes later I feel the high it's a strong high. I will wait how long I feel it and post the results later.

I will let it cool to room temperature and then I will store it in the freezer.

The next test will be a cold extract.

Have a great day
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