Grow Mediums the pros and cons of autopots

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Hopefully this is all phrased in a positive manner. Its not meant to piss peeps off. For every 10 rave threads there could be 1 contrary thread, just to add some perspective. Just in case someone down the road is looking at autopots and wants to know the pros AND cons, not just the pros.

I have used two 4 pots systems for four grows now. Two reservoirs, 8 pots including some of the smaller 2.5g ones. And airdomes as well. I have had great success growing with autopots but I swear it was other factors that made that success, not the autopots. I do have one guy who looked at my setup and went out and bought all the gear for it and he loves it. As do many others.

The pros for autopots? There is only 1 that I can come up with.
  • Automation. Self regulated watering and feeding. Can go away for a week and the plants will water and feed themselves as long as the res lasts.

The cons? These are based on my own opinion, but I think they are pretty legit. They are things that took me a while to realize. You might not realize these at first. And some of the cons below could be said to be true of other systems too. Its not all black and white.
  • Not really a con per se, just a fact I guess. U should hand water from the top for 20 days before you turn on the system. so first 20 days is not automated. If you want that, you probably need drip stakes. I bought in to autopots at first because I was a newbie guilty of over watering and these seemed to be the answer. But I now realized over watering is more of an issue in the seedling phase when the systems isn't even turned on. So the con is they don't really help address watering issues (other than when someone is away for days at a time and needs automation).
  • I don't like having to lift the pots out of the trays when I want to put one on the bench and work on it. Its messy and cumbersome, especially with the airdome and irrigation lines getting in the way. I switched to regular pots for my current grow and its so much nicer to have a simple pot in a saucer.
  • Its hard to customize feeding with autopots. If you want to feed one plant differently than the others, you'll have to find a way to do that like top watering in something. Especially if you stagger your grows and have plants in veg and flower at the same time.
  • Can't use some thicker or carbo based nutes in the system because they will clog it. Got to manually add them.
  • A few points of failure that could either clog the lines or flood the trays. Could be a big issue for some unfortunate peeps.
  • If you don't use RO water, you might get some calcium buildup in the lines and trays and valves.
  • More cleaning to do after a grow. Clean the trays, airdomes, valves, lines.
  • Not cheap. Airpots are way cheaper and people consider those to be expensive.
  • Flushing. You really should stop using the autopot system at the end when you are going to flush. Don't rely on the res to flush as you could get lockout and I did. that is if you are a believer of flushing. you can just eliminate the trays and put the pots in saucers at this point so it's not technically really a con.
  • There are a lot of parts involved that you should have stock of. I have so many shut off valves, splitters and tees and silicon tabs, tubing etc. True of any hydro system though.
 
Hopefully this is all phrased in a positive manner. Its not meant to piss peeps off. For every 10 rave threads there could be 1 contrary thread, just to add some perspective. Just in case someone down the road is looking at autopots and wants to know the pros AND cons, not just the pros.

I have used two 4 pots systems for four grows now. Two reservoirs, 8 pots including some of the smaller 2.5g ones. And airdomes as well. I have had great success growing with autopots but I swear it was other factors that made that success, not the autopots. I do have one guy who looked at my setup and went out and bought all the gear for it and he loves it. As do many others.

The pros for autopots? There is only 1 that I can come up with.
  • Automation. Self regulated watering and feeding. Can go away for a week and the plants will water and feed themselves as long as the res lasts.

The cons? These are based on my own opinion, but I think they are pretty legit. They are things that took me a while to realize. You might not realize these at first. And some of the cons below could be said to be true of other systems too. Its not all black and white.
  • Not really a con per se, just a fact I guess. U should hand water from the top for 20 days before you turn on the system. so first 20 days is not automated. If you want that, you probably need drip stakes. I bought in to autopots at first because I was a newbie guilty of over watering and these seemed to be the answer. But I now realized over watering is more of an issue in the seedling phase when the systems isn't even turned on. So the con is they don't really help address watering issues (other than when someone is away for days at a time and needs automation).
  • I don't like having to lift the pots out of the trays when I want to put one on the bench and work on it. Its messy and cumbersome, especially with the airdome and irrigation lines getting in the way. I switched to regular pots for my current grow and its so much nicer to have a simple pot in a saucer.
  • Its hard to customize feeding with autopots. If you want to feed one plant differently than the others, you'll have to find a way to do that like top watering in something. Especially if you stagger your grows and have plants in veg and flower at the same time.
  • Can't use some thicker or carbo based nutes in the system because they will clog it. Got to manually add them.
  • A few points of failure that could either clog the lines or flood the trays. Could be a big issue for some unfortunate peeps.
  • If you don't use RO water, you might get some calcium buildup in the lines and trays and valves.
  • More cleaning to do after a grow. Clean the trays, airdomes, valves, lines.
  • Not cheap. Airpots are way cheaper and people consider those to be expensive.
  • Flushing. You really should stop using the autopot system at the end when you are going to flush. Don't rely on the res to flush as you could get lockout and I did. that is if you are a believer of flushing. you can just eliminate the trays and put the pots in saucers at this point so it's not technically really a con.
  • There are a lot of parts involved that you should have stock of. I have so many shut off valves, splitters and tees and silicon tabs, tubing etc. True of any hydro system though.

Yeah sorry but I'd have to disagree on most of your points. I've got 16 pots. 2 small res and 1 200l res. Been using just water and biotabs for nearly 18 months on a constant perpetual auto grow. 2 plants in and out my room every 2 weeks and other than 1 nozzle breaking while I was doing a clean I've had 0 issues.
I have 2 sets of pipe ready so I can just sesp out the tubing and give it a clean every 2 months but that's all I need to do...
 
So far I really like the system. I recommend it to people all the time if they are new and old to growing. There are disadvantages like you just can't move your pots around anyway you want. You do need to top feed a few weeks. My current grow was more like 2 weeks till res turned on. But once on its a breeze.

The airdome. I found I like to use a long 24 in flexible airstone not the dome. One reason is the long airstone puts out more air over a larger area in the pot. Just bend it into a gridiron shape on the bottom of pot. Airdome is more expensive then long airstone too, not as easy to replace either. Bought 2 24incers from china less than 5 bucks shipped. Took a month but I order before I need.

Currently I am worried of a blow out even though never had one (paranoid can't tell ya why). Think I'm gonna pick up the pot and put a additional copper pad thing in the tray under it. If roots get around the first one the second one should get em.
 
If you want to add organic nutrient water to avoid clogging you can manually pour it into the mini reservoir where the aqua valve is .
This was recommended from an auto pot rep I saw at an event.


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Currently I am worried of a blow out even though never had one (paranoid can't tell ya why). Think I'm gonna pick up the pot and put a additional copper pad thing in the tray under it. If roots get around the first one the second one should get em.

Hi @TreyDogg - I've used two every time, it's cheap insurance IMO. Or as @legalizeme mentioned, the "pot socks" are a great option. Someone here even uses plain old landscape fabric. Throw another one in and put your mind at rest. Or you can stress out about something else, haha.
 
Automation. Self regulated watering and feeding. Can go away for a week and the plants will water and feed themselves as long as the res lasts.

Hi @lunarman - For me, this pro outweighs all the cons you mentioned. I only did a couple of grows w/o autopots though so I don't have much to compare it to. I used airpots on my other grows and I was watering constantly it seemed plus extra mixing. Meh, I don't miss that crap at all.
 
Hi @lunarman - For me, this pro outweighs all the cons you mentioned. I only did a couple of grows w/o autopots though so I don't have much to compare it to. I used airpots on my other grows and I was watering constantly it seemed plus extra mixing. Meh, I don't miss that crap at all.

LOL. That one pro is definitely a big factor for lots of people. I wouldn't doubt it if after a year or two of manually watering like I'm doing now, I'll get tired of it and switch back to autopots for that reason.
 
Hi @TreyDogg - I've used two every time, it's cheap insurance IMO. Or as @legalizeme mentioned, the "pot socks" are a great option. Someone here even uses plain old landscape fabric. Throw another one in and put your mind at rest. Or you can stress out about something else, haha.

I have pot socks and don't like them. They can someones fit loosely on the bottom of the pot and when you lift your pot out of the tray they fall off and its not fun putting them back on especially if you have a big plant in the pot. Plus I don't think they do anything. Landscape fabric works just as well. I just precut pieces of it up to fit the tray and put one in and it stays there even when lifting pots out.
 
Hi @TreyDogg - I've used two every time, it's cheap insurance IMO. Or as @legalizeme mentioned, the "pot socks" are a great option. Someone here even uses plain old landscape fabric. Throw another one in and put your mind at rest. Or you can stress out about something else, haha.

Unfortunately I most likely will stress about something else. But I did pick up more pot socks.
 
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