New Grower The life cycle of auto flowering cannabis.

Another common question I see is when to switch autos from veg to bloom. Many people are under the impression that as soon as they see the first flowers it's time to switch. Perhaps a little explanation of the life cycle of autos will help to clarify this.

Weeks 1 - 3. Once you've started your seeds and they break the surface of the soil, they are in their seedling stage. The first set of leaves to appear will usually single fingered, followed by a second set that may still be single fingered or perhaps 3 fingered. Once that second set appears growth will start to accelerate as the new leaves provide more photosynthesis. This process will continue, more new leaves, faster growth. Depending on the type of soil in use, mild vegetative nutes can be introduced at week 2. By week 3 most plants will start to show their sex. Males will start to produce pollen sacks and females will display pistols.

Weeks 4 - 6. The plants are now entering a pre flowering stage. During this time the plants should exhibit explosive growth, often as much as a new set of nodes and 1" vertical growth a day. This is the time when they will gain most of their vertical height. Many people make the mistake of switching from vegetative to flowering nutrients at this point, assuming that since they see flowers it must be the proper time. This is incorrect. If the switch to flowering nutes is made at this time the vertical growth will stop and the plant will put it's energy into producing buds. If you need to keep your plants small, or want them to finish earlier, they by all means switch nutes at this point. But if you want to get the most out of your plants continue feeding vegetative nutes until you see the vertical growth slow and stop. Depending on the strain that will usually be sometime during week 5 or 6.

Weeks 7 - 9. By now vertical growth has stopped and the switch to flowering nutrients has been made. The buds will start to fill out and put on weight, becoming hard and tight. Pistols will start to change from white to brown, orange, red, etc. By now the plants will also have developed a strong smell. Toward the end of this phase the large primary and smaller secondary fan leaves will begin to turn yellow. This is an indication that the plant is moving toward the end of it's life.

Weeks 10 - 11. At this time flowering nutes should be discontinued and only plain pHed water fed to flush the remaining nutrients from the soil and improve the taste. Yellowing of the fan leaves will continue as the plant draws the stored energy from them. Eventually they will die and fall off. By the time that the smaller leaves that come from out of the buds will also start to turn yellow. Then it's time to harvest.

I know that many of you are thinking that the seed bank said the plants will finish in 8-9 weeks, so why are you saying they take 10-11? The claims made by the seed banks are somewhat deceptive. If you switch to flowering nutes at week 3 or 4 the plants can finish in the times the seed banks say but they will remain small and not reach their full potential yield. Years of growing by myself and others has shown that autos do best if you follow this time line.

Of course, there will always be variations depending on the strain, the environment, nutrients, etc. This information is meant to only serve as a general guideline.

For more detailed information on when to harvest your plants, please see: https://www.autoflower.org/f44/when-harvest-autos-your-leaves-will-tell-you-4889.html.

NOTE: This is an informational thread. Do not post specific questions about your grow here. Please start a new thread in the appropriate forum.
 
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This is what I'm asking, I have no idea, its not happened to me but yeah, they surely must visually over-ripen at some point?

Duck Commander and I have both used grow nutes right up to the end and kept plants looking really green and I just kinda thought, if we were both completely new to this then how would you judge it, for us we could see the final bloom but if you were new to the game I'm not sure you see that for what it was.

Dunno, maybe I've just been smoking a bit too much today and I'm talking nonsense :)


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I've actually done this to see what would happen. I've left plants as long as 16 weeks. Eventually, regardless of whether they are receiving nutes or not, they will start to die off. The leaves and the buds themselves will start to turn brown and get brittle. In the wild this would be the natural process and indoor growing does seem to mimic this. I'm sure a botanist could probably give you the whys and what fors. In my experiments, 14 weeks seems to be the point where they start to go down hill rather quickly.

Lets say you were feeding grow nutrients all the way through the life cycle, you have a plant 12 weeks old, fully flowered and showing only milky trichs, absolutely zero amber, green healthy leaves throughout.

Now normally you'd have knocked the grow nutes on the head, and cleansed to show when to harvest but if you hadn't done either of those things and you were just growing as normal waiting for the trichs to turn amber (say they won't), and keeping in mind amber trichs are a sign of over-ripeness....
How would could you tell your flowers were, well, over-ripening??

This isn't happening to me, just a thought I was pondering...


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Awesome info - thanks Muddy!

Sorry, don't know how to give reputation. I tried.... :(
 
Muddy, much thanks for this thread! Brand new to AFN, and I am about to begin my first auto grow, just waiting on my Dinafem WW beans, which I'll be growing in a 4x4 tent with LED/veg and HPS/flower. I have been looking for this exact information, and will use it as my grow guide. Really looking forward to growing out autos with this info!
 
Hi Muddy- is there a difference between outdoors and indoor schedules? can it be that outdoors it is longer?

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Hi Muddy- is there a difference between outdoors and indoor schedules? can it be that outdoors it is longer?
 
Hi Muddy- is there a difference between outdoors and indoor schedules? can it be that outdoors it is longer?

In my experience outdoor autos take about a week longer than indoors. That extra week is added to the blooming phase.
 
Hey Muddy, is there a way to Bottle Sweetness ????

Muddy thanks for all your conversation, it has made me feel right at home here. Also I have been noticing it seems an almost halt to vertical Growth, So I decided what the heck & went ahead and switched to Flowering mix & we will see what we see. I to be honest want to see the entire cycle like a little kid so I can see where to " PLAY " on the next grow, So thanks again & by the way " Organized Chaos " is if viewed from the proper line of sight, Heaven on Earth Now So Enjoy!

PS. If I could bottle the scent, oh man would that be nice.:coffee2: One last thought, Have you or anyone you know of, Done a Time Lapse video of an Auto from seedling to Harvest Time? Just a thought
 
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Hey Muddy a little input if you please/ appreciate ALL Positive input please from all

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Just wanted to throw out a question & see what I get, Muddy I am still in the Cream of the Crop - Cash Crop & things are coming along excellent. Once I figured out I lost a week somewhere I did as you suggested & hit em with the Veg mix again & they did increase the vertical growth pretty darn good, but not as fast as when I had switched them to the Bloom Mix ( GH 3 PART ) So when the vertical growth slowed & then came to a stop I did a metered change over to get them going & then into full bloom mix. Dog gone if the darn things didn't take off again & with Flowers beginning to fill in at an accelerated rate, The growth vertically in the last 8 days has gone from 10 1/2 inches to 18 1/2 inches and still going with lower braches developing as well ( I do not mind one darn bit :pighug: ) with tops just beginning to develop but looking very nice. My question/s are this, could the genetics of the strain be bred in to develop in a bit of tweeked way to accelerate the flowering of the plant in that plant energy is bred to accelerate plant growth in the Flowering stage as well as the Veg Stage, not only to promote flower growth as per flower pistols massing but be beefed up in overall size? Kinda like a steroid veg type slam to the flowering stage of the plant increasing density of the buds but massive size as well? Sorry if a bit on the stupid side of a question but I have a lot of time to think & with my slow noggin I figure when in doubt ask, so I am asking.:Sharing One: One last thing guys, I am talking & asking on a Geneic/cellular level, for the life of me I can't remember the name but there is an Orchid which at the need to survive, has the ability to produce such a strong nectar scent that it attracts bees from up to 10 miles away! This is genetic & there are many other examples in nature in survival of many species of plants, I simply wonder if these traits could be mapped & adapted to Cannabis ?

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this is bad advise for autoflowers. autos should never be transplanted and should be grown in very large, deep containers; 5-7 gallon buckets, unless you need to stunt them a little because of height restraints in your grow area. autos need long tap roots and large root balls and none of the stressing that works so well for photos is advised for autos like topping, FIMing, cloning, scrogging, etc, and transplanting is like topping your root system. the only stress autos like is letting them dry out between waterings. you can wait until they start to wilt a little. they will grow better if not over-watered. water them a little at a time, wait a few minutes, water some more, wait, water, and stop as soon as you see any runoff in your catch pan.
Muddy, I've been talking about this (and the harvest guide) with someone and he asked me a couple of questions I couldn't answer.

His point was that he starts autos in a smaller pot then pots up around week 3 (when the first pistils appear). That new pot has new compost in with about 3 weeks worth of food in it. That brings the plant to the end of week 6 and bloom nutes start at week 7 (assuming vertical growth has stopped).
That being the case, why do you suggest feeding with veg nutes as early as week 2?

He also questioned why flushing applies to soil (and asked if it was written for coco growers)... which is way over my head. Any input on that?

Cheers. :)
 

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