E
Epic Genetics
Guest
you ever think the F'in title might have given you enough of a hint that this thread IS a tutorial ?
it was NOT a smart assed answer as i am STILL rolling my eyes
you said it yourself , you did NOT read , instead you asked for someone to post to you something that is ALREADY posted and is done so on page 1 , no needing to dig through 50 pages and 500 posts so please dont pretend there was just so you can justify yourself , simply click the first page and done , should of been VERY easy for ANYONE to realise due to what id already mentioned , it says right in the title "TUTORIAL"
please take your attitude elsewhere
i was very offended and found it quite rude of you to ask for a step by step tutorial when that is in fact how this thread began , it was like a slap in the face , when your ready to say sorry , you know where to find me
- - - Updated - - -
that is understandable when what you are asking isnt on page 1 and you arent asking for someone to give you a step by step "tutorial" lmao
peace
Last edited by a moderator:
JayP my brother, why are you tripping? Everything going ok with you? not trying to sound like an ass, just doesn't seem your style to take things like that way… It is a tutorial, and I know bob introduced the air stone method on here, but Ive also seen it on some of the "stupid youtube" videos an else where….if your really feeling daunted at the task of making some simple CS look into STS (remember though highly toxic, but also HIGHLY effective) as well to you S&H, you guys need some one to one help with reversal feel free to PM me all the questions you want that may have already been covered several times in this thread (maybe why its gotten to become such a long thread)
I am sure b0b could vouch for me that I have an idea of what Im doing when it comes to reversal… I highly am against promoting STS and really think it should be discouraged in usage but with all its "warnings" it is rather effective.. would much rather at least see people to attempt CS first… Again I know this should and could be sent in a PM but I feel it should be posted here as it seems like people are getting "snippy", that are all good peeps...
please I would be more than willing to help both of you reverse your plants if you choose the toxic route..
Stay chilled jayp, its all good brother, don't forget Bob is a part time cranky old fart (though, I got to say I don't blame him getting cranky over this
)
At your service here
yodabuds
:Sharing One:
:hug:
I am sure b0b could vouch for me that I have an idea of what Im doing when it comes to reversal… I highly am against promoting STS and really think it should be discouraged in usage but with all its "warnings" it is rather effective.. would much rather at least see people to attempt CS first… Again I know this should and could be sent in a PM but I feel it should be posted here as it seems like people are getting "snippy", that are all good peeps...
please I would be more than willing to help both of you reverse your plants if you choose the toxic route..
Stay chilled jayp, its all good brother, don't forget Bob is a part time cranky old fart (though, I got to say I don't blame him getting cranky over this
) At your service here
yodabuds
:Sharing One:
:hug:
Never looked at the title the only reason I ever posted on this thread is I saw a post and commented on it. Guess I should have been a little more observant. @Yoda no I didn't know this was a tutorial thread bro if I had I would have never asked the question like I did. As for me asking about the air stone I was asking the other day "1 or 2 pages back" about where to get the things I needed to make CS and someone told me a aquarium pump and airstone so I was just curious on what to do with it as I thought I knew how to make it but I didn't know how to make it using the pump and airstone. So I ask and then all this started should have simply told me look on page one or asked me if I had read threw the thread. But I'm over it I just know not to ask any questions anymore. Sorry for causing such a mess in your thread Bob_B1tch1n
This IS a great thread! BUT, it is now 55 pages long. What would be great would be if someone could take your core information you posted in the beginning, and turn it into a FAQ, as there are some basic questions that have been asked that are relevant. A closed FAQ type of post would be very benefical. I too sifted thru many pages to answer a question i had and felt like this thread has lost its way, as we all know, many people see the recent posts to a thread like this, and never go to the beginning. Closing this thread and making a FAQ or Sticky thats closed would keep the great information in this easily available. People who posted questions about the subject could do so in the general forum, etc and not pollute the source information. Question could be first refered to the FAQ, then if needed, further dicussion in a new thread would be appropriate, and would keep the source information clean.
Just a thought, and as I said, this is a great thread. just way too long.
:Sharing One:
Yoda's condensed tutorial to make CS. First off you need to obtain the silver you will be using... Many places on the net to source 99.99 (if ya can get it, 99.999%) silver wires, you need two aprox 6" to 8" in length. Next you need a power supply you can either use one 9v battery (I see people stack them and use more, but why? We don't want to rush the process as we are aiming for smallest silver particles possible that the plant will be able to absorb, the higher the power supply the quicker the silver is released into the water and in larger particles) we want slow and easy folks, also you can get a power charger from old cell phone or a variable volt one from radio shack, preferably 600mha of lower and 3v to 9v, I've found in the 5.x range the sweet spot), if you go with battery you need to get a radio shack those clips that you connect a 9v battery to that have two wires coming off it, now either you can get fancy and solder the wires to the silver wires or can even just wrap the wire around the silver and use electrical tape... Now you have you CS generator.
nect step is to make the brewing chamber... I found a quart mason jar works best... I than take the lid and use a nail to make three holes in the lid. One opposite from each other near the edge of the lid(these holes are where you'll put your wires which you want a few inches apart from each other so they don't touch) I than out a hole in the middle of the lid and this is where I run the air line with air stone through.....
Now when putting the wires through the lid try to use something like tape on each side of the lid so the wires are not touching the lid(otherwise if they do it will use that metal as well creating rust and a mess) fill jar with distilled water turn power on... Now I let or sit for 24hrs the first 8to10hrs nothing really is required... But. Than you'll notice the silver wires becoming black, take them out and use a green scouring pad and wipe them off and put back in (may have to do it earlier than that but not frequent) as the ppms rise the quicker the wires will become dirty and the more often you'll have to wipe them.... Let this go for a day or so and your aiming for a ppm of 20+ no need to go higher than 25 IMHO. Also I've used the plastic containers maragin comes in to make smaller batches and I think the lid is nicer as it's plastic and no worries about the other metal...
That's pretty much the dumb downed tutorial on CS....
:Sharing One:
Edit: not only do you now know how to make CS to reverse plants you can now how a very powerful antiseptic/biotic to help use in the upcoming zombie apocalypse :launch:
:launch:
Last edited:
LOL.... Here is what I think but it would be a big job.....
Someone should go back through the thread and delete any off topic posts to start with then maybe try and go back through and delete posts that have already been answered in another posting.
Yoda, this and the original cover the mechanics of this process simply and succinctly. What it doesn't answer, and more than one person eventually ask in the thread is: When and how to apply? When should you use it on an Autoflower? When should you use it on a photoperiod? How much should you use? How often should you use it? Has anyone every tested to see what the minimum/maximum number of applications are? How much should I make per plant? I'm sure there are other question that could be added to this list. And most of the answers are in the thread. just now its become time consuming to find these answers.
- - - Updated - - -
- - - Updated - - -
Yoda's condensed tutorial to make CS. First off you need to obtain the silver you will be using... Many places on the net to source 99.99 (if ya can get it, 99.999%) silver wires, you need two aprox 6" to 8" in length. Next you need a power supply you can either use one 9v battery (I see people stack them and use more, but why? We don't want to rush the process as we are aiming for smallest silver particles possible that the plant will be able to absorb, the higher the power supply the quicker the silver is released into the water and in larger particles) we want slow and easy folks, also you can get a power charger from old cell phone or a variable volt one from radio shack, preferably 600mha of lower and 3v to 9v, I've found in the 5.x range the sweet spot), if you go with battery you need to get a radio shack those clips that you connect a 9v battery to that have two wires coming off it, now either you can get fancy and solder the wires to the silver wires or can even just wrap the wire around the silver and use electrical tape... Now you have you CS generator.
nect step is to make the brewing chamber... I found a quart mason jar works best... I than take the lid and use a nail to make three holes in the lid. One opposite from each other near the edge of the lid(these holes are where you'll put your wires which you want a few inches apart from each other so they don't touch) I than out a hole in the middle of the lid and this is where I run the air line with air stone through.....
Now when putting the wires through the lid try to use something like tape on each side of the lid so the wires are not touching the lid(otherwise if they do it will use that metal as well creating rust and a mess) fill jar with distilled water turn power on... Now I let or sit for 24hrs the first 8to10hrs nothing really is required... But. Than you'll notice the silver wires becoming black, take them out and use a green scouring pad and wipe them off and put back in (may have to do it earlier than that but not frequent) as the ppms rise the quicker the wires will become dirty and the more often you'll have to wipe them.... Let this go for a day or so and your aiming for a ppm of 20+ no need to go higher than 25 IMHO. Also I've used the plastic containers maragin comes in to make smaller batches and I think the lid is nicer as it's plastic and no worries about the other metal...
That's pretty much the dumb downed tutorial on CS....
:Sharing One:
Edit: not only do you now know how to make CS to reverse plants you can now how a very powerful antiseptic/biotic to help use in the upcoming zombie apocalypse :launch:
E
Epic Genetics
Guest
thanx yoda , and yes people it is that easy , i dont advise a metal lid though due to risk of the electricity shorting out on the lid
pop and sah , ive deleted/cleaned up many posts , i dont have the energy (some days even eating seems like work) or the eye sight (eyes go blurry after reading steady for 5 mins or so) to read through it all again and delete/save stuff
its a simple solution really , NONE of this drama would be going on if people would just read page freekin 1 , even if they came to the thread due to a recent post , i mean its common sense , ive done forums since the first days they were available , any thread i went to be it page 3 or page 30 , if i had a question about the topic i would first check at least the first page to save myself from looking lazy (or worse) , does that not make sense ? especially with a title (that can be seen at the top of the page/browser bar) that says TUTORIAL
peace
pop and sah , ive deleted/cleaned up many posts , i dont have the energy (some days even eating seems like work) or the eye sight (eyes go blurry after reading steady for 5 mins or so) to read through it all again and delete/save stuff
its a simple solution really , NONE of this drama would be going on if people would just read page freekin 1 , even if they came to the thread due to a recent post , i mean its common sense , ive done forums since the first days they were available , any thread i went to be it page 3 or page 30 , if i had a question about the topic i would first check at least the first page to save myself from looking lazy (or worse) , does that not make sense ? especially with a title (that can be seen at the top of the page/browser bar) that says TUTORIAL
peace
Allrighty here are some of your answers I hope any more feel free to shoot them out… You want to spray the plant preferably during lights out so you don't burn them… When spraying the plant you want to give it a very good misting almost to the point of dripping off… best is to get underside of leaves as much as possible and be sure to hit those pre flower areas really good… I think best is to spray twice a day, any more really is not needed. Also keep in mind not to overwater during this time… I put the CS in a dark spray bottle you can get at wally world in the health and beauty dept holds like 4oz i think i set it to mist, For an autoflower you want to begin spraying as soon as you see the FIRST sign of a pistil… Than continue on for a a few weeks, during this time you may still see the plant looking like its flowering, dont worry keep on spraying, when you see you start getting sacs in about two to three weeks keep on spraying for a few four/five more days to be sure the reversal takes hold (also not bad to spray it again here and there before it starts to drop pollen) As far as a photoperiod you would start spraying from day1 of putting her into 12/12… and its the same process, I've used aprox for a good side plant about a pint per plant did me good… :Sharing One:
