STS and DWC

[ob1]

I did a little search and didn't find anything on this.
Has anyone used STS while growing in DWC (hydroponics).
I know in soil you can't get the STS in the soil because it will kill the bacteria (good and bad forms)
I am pretty new to hydroponics (just graduated a couple weeks ago from soil).
I am using general hydroponics nutes and from what I understand they are synthetic (not sure if that matters)
but I don't know if there is bacteria in the solution or if I got some STS in the reservoir would it have detrimental consequences.
or is it just better to stick to soil for crossing females.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ob1]

So I'm guessing nobody has reversed a female growing in hydroponics.

 

[ob1]

Well the good news is I'm reversing my first auto in a deep water culture.
I have taken care not to get any STS in the reservoir.
I am on my 3rd spray of STS and seeing as no one has answered my question,
after I make more seeds I am going to start an auto in a single DWC.
Once it starts to flower I will add 2 or 3 ml of STS to my reservoir every 4 to 5 days when I spray the plant and I will monitor and record the results.
Will it kill my plant or will it systematically block the ethylene.
If anyone has had experience in this department please speak up if not I will be the guanine pig and let you know.

 

[MissUniverse]

I have reversed a DWC plant with sts. Be very careful not even a single drop gets on the roots, in the hydroton or in the res. If you just spray the plant and make sure you do it by the normal procedures after such like you seem to be doing (while spraying lay down about 10 layers of news paper on top of the hydroton making sure to cover all the way and wrap the base as well with paper towels and remove when done) you shouldn't have issues but don't spray once it flowering and developed the pollen sacs because by then it's already male

 

[ob1]

I have reversed a DWC plant with sts. Be very careful not even a single drop gets on the roots, in the hydroton or in the res. If you just spray the plant and make sure you do it by the normal procedures after such like you seem to be doing (while spraying lay down about 10 layers of news paper on top of the hydroton making sure to cover all the way and wrap the base as well with paper towels and remove when done) you shouldn't have issues but don't spray once it flowering and developed the pollen sacs because by then it's already male

Thanks for the reply!
Have you ever reversed with sts in soil and did you find the results better the same or worse in the DWC as far as the amount of pollen.
I'm thinking the DWC will be better for making pollen because the plants seem to be a lot more healthy.
I am slowly learning hydroponics and I know that after a few grows in hydro I will have a better understanding but I really like to hear what others have learned from their experiences as well.

 

[Arthur]

If healthy looking plants thru reversal is what your looking for, drop the STS and make colloidal silver. STS is way more aggressive than colloidal silver.

Kinda seems a waste to reverse a hydro grown plant... making seeds I'm running 1 gallon bags of soil for both reversal & seed plant. Reversed plant I don't consume any flower, it goes in the dumper as soon as pollen has been collected unless selfed...might be ok for edibles, maybe.... so I don't want a monster that will take up valuable space in a run... If its been "selfed", I still don't want a monster, once a plant that is pollenated, the plant slows way down on thc production. Making a "for seed" plant less potent than her sister grown alongside not pollinated. Again, taking up valuable space.

 

[MissUniverse]

Thanks for the reply!
Have you ever reversed with sts in soil and did you find the results better the same or worse in the DWC as far as the amount of pollen.
I'm thinking the DWC will be better for making pollen because the plants seem to be a lot more healthy.
I am slowly learning hydroponics and I know that after a few grows in hydro I will have a better understanding but I really like to hear what others have learned from their experiences as well.

I have reversed in soil vs dwc. I honestly have seen a greater amount of pollen in total in dwc. But it's always worth it to try a few methods. I also find the plants don't slow down as much and tend to recover well because you can give special care directly at the roots. So that's a big plus for care of the plant.

If healthy looking plants thru reversal is what your looking for, drop the STS and make colloidal silver. STS is way more aggressive than colloidal silver.

Kinda seems a waste to reverse a hydro grown plant... making seeds I'm running 1 gallon bags of soil for both reversal & seed plant. Reversed plant I don't consume any flower, it goes in the dumper as soon as pollen has been collected unless selfed...might be ok for edibles, maybe.... so I don't want a monster that will take up valuable space in a run... If its been "selfed", I still don't want a monster, once a plant that is pollenated, the plant slows way down on thc production. Making a "for seed" plant less potent than her sister grown alongside not pollinated. Again, taking up valuable space.

I think it depends on your purpose for the plant. If your purpose is to grow for a lot of seed then a large plant serves its purpose well, if you only want "a few" seeds then a small run is fine. It's all purpose and perspective

 

[Arthur]

I have reversed in soil vs dwc. I honestly have seen a greater amount of pollen in total in dwc. But it's always worth it to try a few methods. I also find the plants don't slow down as much and tend to recover well because you can give special care directly at the roots. So that's a big plus for care of the plant.


I think it depends on your purpose for the plant. If your purpose is to grow for a lot of seed then a large plant serves its purpose well, if you only want "a few" seeds then a small run is fine. It's all purpose and perspective

The direct attention to the root zone makes sense, although I've never needed a CS plant to recover.
I've grown DWC, but not in about 15 years. And all my experience was photos and cloning, so no breeding was needed, mom just kept putting out!

I suppose if the need is for several thousand seeds, then that would also make sense, size wise, I'm getting several hundred seeds off of a small auto. I can see a genetic (possible) advantage, as it would be pollen donor X mother instead of multiple moms.

 

[ob1]

If healthy looking plants thru reversal is what your looking for, drop the STS and make colloidal silver. STS is way more aggressive than colloidal silver.

Hey Arthur I'm a little late on the reply (sorry about that)
I used to make C/S and when I sprayed my plants They looked like hell after, I'm talking like I thought they were dead.
When I switched to STS the concentration seemed so low I doubted it would even work. When I sprayed it on the plant and they looked so healthy, I was convinced that the stuff would not work but it proved me wrong. I actually became afraid of having the plant in the house because it was dropping pollen like crazy.
If I even tapped the pot a cloud of pollen would float down.
The concentration I use is 0.1g of silver nitrate in 100 ml of distilled water.
0.5 g of sodium thiosulfate anhydrous in 100 ml of distilled water.
then from these 2 stock solutions I mix 5 ml of each together in to 90 ml of distilled water.
When I first saw this recipe I thought 0.1g of silver and 0.5 sodium thiosulfate into 100 ml of water each then dilute 5 ml of each in to 90 ml of water how can that work there will be hardly anything in the solution.
I am at 100% in my reversals.
my last reversal I did was in the deep water culture and it worked to good. I sprayed the whole plant and this is the largest auto I have grown to date (also the first auto in hydroponics) and once again the pollen was dropping but it was a little harder to move the water bucket than it is to move a flower pot.
I'm sold on STS and DWC but I know now to only hit a branch or 2 so when the pollen starts dropping I can bag the branches cut them off and put them in a glass of water and move them to another area before I remove the bag and collect.
I'm thinking my home made C/S was to strong and it was damaging my plants.
I also believe since working with STS I have now found other STS recipes that are way more concentrated than the first recipe I found (and have always used).
Sometimes people think more is better, but if the experience you had with STS was of higher concentrate it may have hurt your plants as my home made C/S did. I would make mine in a 500ml jar for 12+ hours @ 24 VDC
You are absolutely right about monster plants in hydroponics next run 1 or 2 branches and self pollinating if it's still to much it will be back to reversing in pots and soil.
Thanks for the input and best of luck with all your grows!