State of AFN (2020)

Donated to the cause! Maybe u should try entrants fee for competitions with a small £££ prize to raise sim cash . Loving this AFN - keep on going
Please DON'T do this. That will turn this place into something it shouldn't be.
I just looked and only 37 people have donated. Come on guys. This place gives us all so much!
 
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I just looked and only 37 people have donated. Come on guys.

:D ....37 donations is AMAZING! and it's going to massively reduce the burden of keeping AFN running and up to date!
I'm blown away with the member generousity! Long Live AFN! ^_^

Don’t do what?

I Think he was talking about a pay to play model for competitions. I agree, it would be a good $$$ generator but would also exclude people, and we love the comps the way they are. Having the support of the breeders allows us to do them in the way that members don't (always) have to pay. Sometimes we can't seed all the places .. and the members that don't get in have to get their own beans to play.
It's a pretty fair deal we reckon! :D

Thanks again for all the donations! It's nice to feel the love!

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:D ....37 donations is AMAZING! and it's going to massively reduce the burden of keeping AFN running and up to date!
I'm blown away with the member generousity! Long Live AFN! ^_^



I Think he was talking about a pay to play model for competitions. I agree, it would be a good $$$ generator but would also exclude people, and we love the comps the way they are. Having the support of the breeders allows us to do them in the way that members don't (always) have to pay. Sometimes we can't seed all the places .. and the members that don't get in have to get their own beans to play.
It's a pretty fair deal we reckon! :D

Thanks again for all the donations! It's nice to feel the love!

:bighug:
Fair enough buddy. Was jus a suggestion to generate a bit of $$$ for the site.
 
It's always good to brainstorm ideas and think of ways to better the site or help it. An annual fee has hit 71 percent of its goal in under a month. As a community well get that goal and surpass it if needed. I have no worries about that with just the donation method. I'm not sure with the higher ups how quickly they were hoping to hit 2000 if it woulda been faster or slower but I know I've worked jobs and not made 2 grand in a month before so i think that's pretty good lol.
 
It's always good to brainstorm ideas and think of ways to better the site or help it. An annual fee has hit 71 percent of its goal in under a month. As a community well get that goal and surpass it if needed. I have no worries about that with just the donation method. I'm not sure with the higher ups how quickly they were hoping to hit 2000 if it woulda been faster or slower but I know I've worked jobs and not made 2 grand in a month before so i think that's pretty good lol.

I think they, and we. are all delightfully shocked at how quickly you guys are getting there. Cheers folks!
 
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To put it bluntly, AFN has grown beyond the size of a hobby forum and requires decent hardware, hosting, and security to keep the site going.

I'm not sure how many of you know this, but we don't have any actual employees on the forum; everything about the site has been volunteer ran since day 1 (9+ years ago.) Everyone has donated their time, energy, efforts, and spirit to trying to make what we have here today.

This wasn't really ever setup to be a business; we've never spent a dime (not one penny, ever) on advertising for the forum, it's 100% organically grown and it's through offering forum space to companies and vendors that we've afforded to keep the site going, afloat, to try out new things, and ultimately stay going this long.

We seemed to have hit some snags the past year+, ran into some obstacles we weren't prepared for, and honestly made a few decisions we thought were going to be for the best, but turned out to not be the right thing to do. But we're trying to listen and trying to get back to what everyone loved and enjoyed, and it sounds like that's just keeping this simple (and we're super cool with that.)

We want to take the emphasis off "trying to make this a business" and instead focusing on "make this community driven, community inspired, community ran" means that we're not in the pocket of these people sending us stuff or testing stuff with us (not that we EVER were (not once, not ever, not in the history of this site) but needing to the keep the lights on is a real struggle sometimes.) AFN is home to a lot of people. We had considered even closing the doors once before, but we had so many people tell us "no, that's not the right thing to do." Honestly, the support recently to keep this going has been relentless. And that's pretty awesome. We have some really great, amazing people here, both staff and non-staff, that know that we are just hitting some speed bumps on our way through this obstacle course and finding our way through it all.

To feasibly pay the server hosting, license renewals, backup storage, etc, $2000 is about a close average of an annual operating cost. That doesn't include service work, "what if's," etc. No incidentals. And will just go up as the needs of the site increase. I would like to get us a specialist to look at optimizing our server and forum setup as well, we can talk about the laggy pink elephant in the room, and if we can figure that out, then we'll do it.

We've setup a GoFundMe (which gave us the greenlight when we asked them if we could do this as a canna forum,) if anyone would like to donate towards this cause.


At present, this would keep the site going annually, 100% community sponsored, not vendor sponsored.

We want to be transparent with what comes in and goes out too. That way there's no accusations or "is this really going for what it's meant for." Then this is what is, this is what we brought in, this is what went out, no one is bullshitting anyone here.

Before anyone starts raising the flags and banging the war drums, AFN is -NOT- in any way at risk of shutting down or closing our doors. Instead, we're trying to get back to why this forum was created. For learning, for sharing, to have a just chill place for people to grow at. Putting the science to the anecdotes. Having a place we can always call home because you know it's consistently this "good vibe of the tribe" kind of place.

We appreciate any consideration and everyone that helps make this community what it is. There's not much of a forum without the community members and that's what has always made us shine, our strength in diversity!

Thanks for listening!
I've been lurking in the background for several years now...looking, reading and learning from folks that are light years ahead of us folks who live in the "boonie" states whose laws have not kept up with reality. You get caught growing or possessing weed here and you bought yourself a long all-expenses-paid stay in a state penitentiary. Twenty-five year mandatory bid...that's 17.5 years to the door! With this in mind, I became a member of AFN because, and for the most part, AFN is the "cutting edge" for cannabis genetics and new techniques! I will continue to support this site by helping with funds and other things to help. But most of all, I hope to help keep the folks grounded in just how lucky they are to live where sanity rules, not the insanity of prohibition!
 
I've been lurking in the background for several years now...looking, reading and learning from folks that are light years ahead of us folks who live in the "boonie" states whose laws have not kept up with reality. You get caught growing or possessing weed here and you bought yourself a long all-expenses-paid stay in a state penitentiary. Twenty-five year mandatory bid...that's 17.5 years to the door! With this in mind, I became a member of AFN because, and for the most part, AFN is the "cutting edge" for cannabis genetics and new techniques! I will continue to support this site by helping with funds and other things to help. But most of all, I hope to help keep the folks grounded in just how lucky they are to live where sanity rules, not the insanity of prohibition!
It won't be long before you have some relief. Either decriminalization or legalization is on the horizon. Canada blazed the trail.
 
Just got here and just got into autos. Grown photos on and off for over 20 years, so I'd say I know a "fair" amount. I lurked for a few weeks before joining last night. Just from my short spell here I can tell this is my kind of community with an abundance of knowledge. I definitely have no problem tossing a couple of bucks (all be it monopoly coloured Canadian money!) At this site to help keep it chugging along. I've certainly wasted more money on useless things let alone something that's actually gonna give back!

So far from what I've seen...great site, and great community guys and gals. Can't wait to become a bigger part of it.

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Done! Already well worth it! I certainly got $25 worth of info off of here before I even signed up, so I probably still owe you guys!
 
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Just got here and just got into autos. Grown photos on and off for over 20 years, so I'd say I know a "fair" amount. I lurked for a few weeks before joining last night. Just from my short spell here I can tell this is my kind of community with an abundance of knowledge. I definitely have no problem tossing a couple of bucks (all be it monopoly coloured Canadian money!) At this site to help keep it chugging along. I've certainly wasted more money on useless things let alone something that's actually gonna give back!

So far from what I've seen...great site, and great community guys and gals. Can't wait to become a bigger part of it.

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Done! Already well worth it! I certainly got $25 worth of info off of here before I even signed up, portso I probably still owe you guys!
Thanks for the kind words and support @Algonquid , and a warm welcome to you! This is a great place to learn and share. We just love our photoperiods too, so feel free to share
 
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