Spotting/ Rash Type Discoloration

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SeaBow

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I've searched before with this problem the last time I saw it early in the veg stages but It's Back! My last diagnosis was pH imbalance, corrected, it didn't show in the new growth. This might also be insect issues. I'm not sure so here we are. Thanks for any help.

What is your experience level? first timer

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. HPS
.2) Distance from tops? ~ 18"
.3) Reflector type? 6" air cooled
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? Yes
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 400w 12/12

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, Jungle Grow (been through the whole slow nute ordeal) and perlite, worm castings
.8) Size of container. 10" X 10" plain black plastic gardening planter pot.

Your nutrients and water:
.9) Source of water. filtered) What's it's ph? corrected to 6.3-6.5
10) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen
11) Method of adjusting water ph. Sulphuric Acid
12) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages - Adv Nutes GMB 1-2-3 480ppm/ 6.3pH ~ every 4-6 days when needed.
13) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? Light 12oz RO water if light pot is detected
14) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, molasses once or twice over 6 weeks
15) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? stable
16) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? in 6.3-6.5 out 6.5-7
17) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? No

Your growroom:
18) Indoors or outdoors? Indoor
19) What size of closet, room or hut? Room
20) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? Day temp 87'-90'
21) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? a few white moths and a few new tiny black bugs

Your strain:
22) What strain are you growing? White Widow, Swiss Cheese
23) Is this an photoperiod strain? A photoperiod
24) From seeds or clones? from seeds

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PS. the sativas are effected ALL over the plants leaves.
 
Hi seabow,

That is very similar to what I had in my first weeks of grow. Those are bite marks of the White flies and possibly the other tiny black bugs.

Although they are easy to control to relative low numbers or total elimination, if not taken care of they can be disastrous to your grow. White flies suck chlorophilia out of the leafs and are a transport of diseases and fungus. They prefer to do their nasty stuff on the underneath of the leaves. Here are a few simple solutions to help you out:

. First inspect your leaves underneath for eggs. They are small yellow and aggregated in clusters underneath the leafs. If you find them simply remove them with water and soap. Usually the best remedy is prevention but inspection of the leafs is very helpful. I fid it easier to inspect underneath the leafs using a flashlight pointing from the bottom to the canopy.

. Foliar spray the leafs with water and 1 or 2 drops of liquid detergent per litter. That will do it.

. I use Neem oil to control and prevent White flies, thrips and others. - i spray it on the leafs underneath and above every other week (when under attack). Use diluted to prevent clotting up the Stomatas in the leafs.

. If all else fails get some insecticide. Only usable before flowering!!!


thank you for filling that form! What did you think of it? I believe sometimes answering the questions helps with finding the solutions.
 
There's also a very cool way of getting rid of the White flies!! You'll notice when you stir the main stem they come out flying from the leaves. At that moment use a vacuum cleaner to suck them away!!

I love it! :)
 
I use Neem oil to control and prevent White flies, thrips and others. - i spray it on the leafs underneath and above every other week (when under attack). Use diluted to prevent clotting up the Stomatas in the leafs.

. If all else fails get some insecticide. Only usable before flowering!!!

I posted this and went outside to do battle with the inch worms on my tomatoes using my Neem oil. I'll take that to the grow room and do battle with the moths. CAN I use this during flowering? I know it's semi-organic.


thank you for filling that form! What did you think of it? I believe sometimes answering the questions helps with finding the solutions.

I didn't mind at all filling out the form. I needed help, may as well do as they helpers ask..... right? I'm notorious for giving a very long answer to a very short question. My reason is that if I do, it most likely will answer you next few you haven't asked yet.:thumbs:


PS - I tried to rep your comments as 'Very Useful Information' but I have no reputation to give :-(
 
There's also a very cool way of getting rid of the White flies!! You'll notice when you stir the main stem they come out flying from the leaves. At that moment use a vacuum cleaner to suck them away!!

I love it! :)

ANYTHING to make their death more agonizing!! :firedevil:
 
I'm not so sure about spraying at flowering. That can cause moulting and that's much much worst.

If they are about to finish in a few weeks I recommend you control the buggers with leaf inspections, removing the eggs and sucking them away! :D I'm sure your plants will appreciate the extra 101 time with you. I know you will.

Thanks for that feedback. I need to put another question there: age of the plant and life cycle. Thank you for spotting that out to me.

One last thing, it's very easy to bring this pests from the exterior into the indoors grow room. They attach to cloth i.e. Watch out with those tomatoes :)
 
I'm not so sure about spraying at flowering. That can cause moulting and that's much much worst.

If they are about to finish in a few weeks I recommend you control the buggers with leaf inspections, removing the eggs and sucking them away! :D I'm sure your plants will appreciate the extra 101 time with you. I know you will.

Thanks for that feedback. I need to put another question there: age of the plant and life cycle. Thank you for spotting that out to me.

One last thing, it's very easy to bring this pests from the exterior into the indoors grow room. They attach to cloth i.e. Watch out with those tomatoes :)



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