Well... ive learned a bunch this grow. The choice of potting soil can make a huge difc. I could not get the soil ph in the root zone to go lower than 7+. I even used 5.0 water. Still wouldnt change. They all grew great untill flowering time then serious problems. Thought maybe the high ph was fine untill flower but then they were not able to access the remaining nutrients cause of the ph. I wonder if they could be saved by transplanting into a ph friendly soil. The potting soil i used was 7.8. I found that Strawberry Fields brand has a ph of 6.5. Wow what a surprise! Looks like i will have to rip these out and try again with ph soil that is actually in range. I also tested the ph of another brand of organic soil,Natures Way i think. Way off and looked like much more woody material was used. If i had some cal-mag i would try to save the current crop but it doesnt look good. I even tried mixing in some quick acting sulfur to lower ph, but that has not produced any affect on ph. I did get a decent ph meter though. That will help im sure. I filled out the form with everything i could think of in previous post. Thanks for the responses.