Mephisto Genetics Samsquatch×HBSS and Cosmic Queen in Hybrid Soil Amended

[Cringer]

Same as my plant after day 40 they always showing deficiencies cal-mag i don't know lockout ore deficiencie. This time i give less than more maybe lockout pH is 6.1

 

[Roasty McToasty]

Same as my plant after day 40 they always showing deficiencies cal-mag i don't know lockout ore deficiencie. This time i give less than more maybe lockout pH is 6.1

I'd say it's very common to confuse lockout with cal mag deficiency, it can look pretty similar. My soil seems to drop in ph over time. So I'm buffering the ph with feed water. Next round I'll be right on top of it, and preemptive strike with higher ph around day 40. Yeah dropping below 6.1 is deffo gonna get lockout in soil.
Oh and

 

[Cringer]

I'd say it's very common to confuse lockout with cal mag deficiency, it can look pretty similar. My soil seems to drop in ph over time. So I'm buffering the ph with feed water. Next round I'll be right on top of it, and preemptive strike with higher ph around day 40. Yeah dropping below 6.1 is deffo gonna get lockout in soil.
Oh and

Morning bro
Do you think my 6.1 drain pH is a lockout sign? How i can fix this problem the nutrients water solution has a pH between 6.5 and 6.8 why is the Drain PH 6.1?

 

[Roasty McToasty]

Morning bro
Do you think my 6.1 drain pH is a lockout sign? How i can fix this problem the nutrients water solution has a pH between 6.5 and 6.8 why is the Drain PH 6.1?

Are you seeing problems come up? 6.1 is literally the bottom end of the range for soil. I'd just ph the next watering to 7.5, that will help raise the ph closer to 6.5 in the medium. This will also help with P and K uptake, which is what you want in flower.

Edit: I have also heard that runoff ph is unreliable, but I think raising the ph of your feed will be beneficial.

 

[Roasty McToasty]

Update

Day 57 for the bigguns, still looking deficient. I know they have nutes to feed on, they just will not uptake. I raised the ph of the feed, and it seemed to help, but they refuse to turn green.

CQ [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG]

CQ [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]

BS [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG]

BS [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]

 

[BCBudlady]

Update

Day 57 for the bigguns, still looking deficient. I know they have nutes to feed on, they just will not uptake. I raised the ph of the feed, and it seemed to help, but they refuse to turn green.

CQ [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG]

CQ [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]

BS [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG]

BS [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]

Tempermental girls they are Roasty, but still coming along nicely! Thankfully, their flowering doesn’t seem to be hindered much at all.

 

[Roasty McToasty]

Tempermental girls they are Roasty, but still coming along nicely! Thankfully, their flowering doesn’t seem to be hindered much at all.

Yeah, either temperamental, or that's how they like it.

So glad that the flowering is progressing, tells me they're still getting some P and K. I know there's plenty of N, they just don't want it I guess.

 

[BCBudlady]

Yeah, either temperamental, or that's how they like it.

So glad that the flowering is progressing, tells me they're still getting some P and K. I know there's plenty of N, they just don't want it I guess.

Chopped the main from my BS yesterday at day 75 and will wait until Tuesday to harvest the rest of her. I have never had lockout like this before and attributed it to low temps but it may be partly that the girl just didn’t like the N, as she did fill out. Still fun to grow out/ smoke something new!

 

[calliandra]

Ohwow loving the structure of your CQs!
Looks like you've got a pheno that will actually make denser buds too, and while very fair (as not to say, blonde lol), seem not to be minding that much at all, judging by the way theyre flowering

edit: I just remembered my Skylar White, she was like a fairy haired girl, blonde all the way, and yielding 44g of a smoke to knock you out in a 10L pot haha

Interesting your thoughts on pH and nutrient uptake too, it's gotten me wondering... haha, may have to acquire a pH meter myself and check out a few things (my poor plants, LOL) :smoking:
You see, in theory, bacterial soils are more alkaline, whilst fungal leaning ones tend to be more acidic.
And, taking N as an example of a nutrient that has been studied alot, we actually want more fungal activity in flower, as it will slow down the bacteria turning the ammonium (N for flower and fruiting) into nitrate (N for foliage growth). Similar probably applies to other nutrients too!
Of course, if the change in pH isn't caused by shifts in microbial populations, there won't be those fungi to take advantage of the acidifying conditions either..

Good luck for the finish! I'm trusting they'll hold through nicely and give you a lovely harvest, even if things don't get turned around!

 

[Roasty McToasty]

Ohwow loving the structure of your CQs!
Looks like you've got a pheno that will actually make denser buds too, and while very fair (as not to say, blonde lol), seem not to be minding that much at all, judging by the way theyre flowering

edit: I just remembered my Skylar White, she was like a fairy haired girl, blonde all the way, and yielding 44g of a smoke to knock you out in a 10L pot haha

Interesting your thoughts on pH and nutrient uptake too, it's gotten me wondering... haha, may have to acquire a pH meter myself and check out a few things (my poor plants, LOL) :smoking:
You see, in theory, bacterial soils are more alkaline, whilst fungal leaning ones tend to be more acidic.
And, taking N as an example of a nutrient that has been studied alot, we actually want more fungal activity in flower, as it will slow down the bacteria turning the ammonium (N for flower and fruiting) into nitrate (N for foliage growth). Similar probably applies to other nutrients too!
Of course, if the change in pH isn't caused by shifts in microbial populations, there won't be those fungi to take advantage of the acidifying conditions either..

Good luck for the finish! I'm trusting they'll hold through nicely and give you a lovely harvest, even if things don't get turned around!

Thanks calli!!!

Yeah they're all pretty blonde but for CQ [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG], she has some color in her buds. Cute tiny little thing.
Not sure what kind of microbe populations I got going, I haven't used mammoth p last few watering, while I try to adjust the ph of the medium. I believe it's the bark fines in my soil making it drop in ph. Therefore locking out some of the nutes. Buffering with higher ph water has helped. Probably needed more buffers (lime) in the soil itself.

So I fed them all a max dose of organic tea, tried to ph up that feed, it took a lot of ph up to get to around 7 ph. Using drops and its a pita to tell what color the sample is when the water is all brown and mucky.
Figure 3 weeks left, so not too worried if they stay super green at this point. Water and mammoth p only from here on out.