Overwatering? Possible nute tox / def?

[Mañ'O'Green]

You reckon go ahead and feed then? I was going to give a half dose feeding again next water to see how she reacts, and I just bought some calmag so I'll add a little of that. I still am conscious that week 6 on that chart is suggesting 1ml/l of grow and 3ml/l of bloom... Maybe I'll do 0.5 of grow, 1 of bloom and 0.5 of the calmag.

cheers buddy.

Keep the nutrients in the same ratio. If the chart says 1ml grow and 3ml bloom go 0.5ml grow and 1.5ml bloom and the chart says 0.3ml Cal-mag so 1.5ml.

Do you see what I am doing?

50% of each nutrient keeps them in the "balance" the vendor sets forth for week 6 just a lower strength.

 

[bowjig]

Keep the nutrients in the same ratio. If the chart says 1ml grow and 3ml bloom go 0.5ml grow and 1.5ml bloom and the chart says 0.3ml Cal-mag so 1.5ml.

Do you see what I am doing?

50% of each nutrient keeps them in the "balance" the vendor sets forth for week 6 just a lower strength.

yep, got you, cheers. I have some non-biobizz calmag (not organic, so maybe I won't use it) along with the biobizz topmax which apparently contains some ca/mg? the info on their ingredients is very sparse unfortunately.

I'll go with what you said and see how it goes.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

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[bowjig]

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Hi mate.

Been trotting on with the feed we set out earlier. Schedule is Water / Nute Water / Water / Nute Water etc.
0.5ml grow, 1.5ml bloom.
All goes in at roughly pH 6.8. She's going but very slowly and still isn't liking something. We're getting close to day 60.

Attached some pictures. Some lower growth is yellowing and dying off. I assume for lack of light penetration. No biggie. Some of the growth on just one side of the main cola has this strange yellowing starting from the leaf edges. This eventually kills the leaf, as you can see in one of the pics. This travels all the way up the plant and is only on one side of each node. Every new main cola node is 50% healthy 50% yellowed and funky. Could be something to do with when the main stem snapped?

Leaf tips still clawing and burning though not as heavily as before.

I've purchased some organic calmag as I opted to not use the inorganic one I had, waiting for that to arrive. Other than that, I have no idea what this plant wants from me. It's not dead but it's going real slow and issues are slowly spreading.

At a basic level, is there anything that indicates my feed is too small/too heavy? In my eyes it's somehow telling me both of those things.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I thought it was supposed to be

Nute Water / Water / Water/ Nute Water / Water / Water ............etc

I think you are still overfeeding.

 

[bowjig]

I thought it was supposed to be

Nute Water / Water / Water/ Nute Water / Water / Water ............etc

I think you are still overfeeding.

Right you are, I misread that sequence!

I'll run with the bigger gap for now. Today I fed calmag ammended plain water, and I'll feed plain water again next.

I guess it has to be too much feed doesn't it, I just keep getting thrown off by other symptoms - lower leaves yellowing and dying, random leaves going yellow and drying at the edges, tip burn all over.

I think I've caused the plant more problems by following the flowchart on GWE near the start of all this. According to that, it's showing symptoms of overfeed (especially N), underfeed (especially K) while also having other random problems that have popped up along the way. Like this leaf in the middle of the plant for example, which before it became totally knackered, looked like typical K underfeed or calmag issues.

 

[bowjig]

I thought it was supposed to be

Nute Water / Water / Water/ Nute Water / Water / Water ............etc

I think you are still overfeeding.

Hello buddy, apologies to be calling for you again.

Just got done with the second plain watering yesterday. Tips still burning in some areas despite no feed, but she is also looking hungry for something, maybe K? You can see the chlorosis on the new leaves of the main cola (although with burned tips?) and other yellowed/burned to death leaves. Some lower leaves are necrotic and have holes. If I had to guess, the abundance of N could be locking out other nutes?

So given what she looks like atm, should I still go for the prescribed feed next watering? I have the organic calmag now and will be adding it to the next feed.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Edit: sorry I misread your post as having added Cal-Mag alone. Disreguard this but learn from it.

Never feed one or two elements alone. That is the definition of out of balance nutrients. Read my previous posts again. You are headed to more problems now. The Cal-mag will lock-out K, and or Ca, and Mg.

You must learn and understand balanced nutrients. Balanced means ALL elements are presented to the plant in the ratios demonstrated within the amounts on this chart. Every time you fertigate.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Ps why are you adding Cal-mag? I do not see a need for extra?

 

[bowjig]

Ps why are you adding Cal-mag? I do not see a need for extra?

Very much appreciate the replies as always. I added calmag as my water is pretty soft, you actually recommended adding it sparsely on the 1st page of this thread. I think I agree, I'll be giving calmag in small amounts every few nute feeds.

As far as I can tell right now, the main problem is far too much N, and that seems to be locking out other major nutes. I can't really flush this late and also it's a completely organic grow so flushing would throw everything off with little time to recover. My options right now are either continue the slower schedule (water water feed, water water feed etc) or skip feed again and plain water next because of the N abundance.

To my eyes shes clearly hungry for everything but N, which she has way too much of still, which seems to be causing her other problems.


Ignoring everything I just said, what would be your next step with this plant looking at the pictures?