Organic Soil+Transplant or not...?

[LOWRYDER]

Hello to everyone, i have been thinking about starting some Think Different seeds under 1200w of HPS and i have a batch of organic soil mix for that purpose. My soil mix consists of:

50 liters of lithuanian peat moss
50 liters of perlite
50 liters of quality Humus

Additives:
225 gr calcite/30 liters (calcite replaces dolomite lime)
150 gr kelp meal/30 liters
50 gr seaweed extract by GK/30 liters
50 gr organic fertilizer for tomatoes/30 liters
50 gr organic fertilizer for vegetables/30 liters
100 gr neem meal/30 liters
1 kg zeolite/30 liters (mineral)

I got this recipe from another forum, in total i will be using 450 grams of additives/ 30 liters. In the past i used 750 grams of additives/30 liters and got astonishing results with photoperiod plants. I was thinking that since i will be growing autoflowers (even hungry autoflowers such as TD), i should cut this recipe in 2/3 of what i was using.

My questions for which i would be very thankful if i had any answers:

1)Do you think this soil mix would be ok for the TDs so that i do not have to add nutes like in my previous grows with photos?

2)I understand that transplants might hurt autoflowers. I was thinking about 2 approaches to this problem since i know my organic soil mix cannot be used if its not cooked for about a month.

A)Start seedlings in 2 liters smart pots with Biobizz Light Mix (transplanting from smart pots is piece of cake. You peel the sides of the pots around like you would with a banana and the soil is exposed. You don't lift the plant or anything like that. Then, after ~3 weeks i could transfer them to my 5-7 gallon final smart pots that i wanna use for them.

B)Start them directly in 5 or 7 gal smart pots and fill at least 40-50% of those smarties with my organic soil mix. In the other half of the smarties (from the top to the middle of the pots) i could use Biobizz Light Mix+a bit of All Mix so that i don't have to give ferts.

Would you choose A or B if you were me? This is my main concern before i take the step with autoflowers, i want to use badly my organic soil, i always had solid results since i started using it and i LOVE IT!

Thank you very much for reading this

 

[LOWRYDER]

WTF, not even one person has grown autoflower with organic soil? I saw some persons around here who did it, but no one mentions how he begins his autos with organic soil mix. Should i try the tier method, biobizz light mix in the cup and organic soil mix in the 5 gal pot?

 

[Nam80232]

Sorry, I'm not a organic soil grower.

 

[LOWRYDER]

Haha, no reason to be sorry bro! I hope someone with experience on organic soil mixes+autoflowers finally shows up!

 

[Pal23]

Be patient man, if the helps out there it will come

 

[A4]

Lowryder, you are going to have a hard time finding someone to answer a question about a specific soil mix like you have described, especially with no NPK ratios. You put "organic fertilizer for tomatoes", who knows what is in that? I don't.

Do you really want someone that has never grown in that soil to tell you it will be OK?

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

Deep breaths, Lowryder
Like a420er says, without NPK values it would be impossible to comment on your soil. Remember too that the breakdown of the N plays a huge role: what % ammoniacal vs slow?
As far as transplanting goes, any disturbance will probably add stress to your ladies, might want to consider starting and finishing in the same container... just my
BTW, I'm loving my 5 gal pots :smoke:

 

[Grim Reefer]

Hey man i used organic soil for my first grow and i get an amazing 5 oz from a auto blueberry but i also used nutes too during both veg and bloom. Here is what i used

25lb bag of composted Cow Manure
18Qt Bag perlite
3 cups of Blood and bone Meal
1.5 cups of powdered egg shells
1.5 Cups of Epsom salt
1/2 cup of sea weed kelp
1 cup of powdered baby cereal

Il also give you a link to this sticky on the site https://www.autoflower.org/f44/fds-guide-hefty-autos-2884.html it might help you out a bit.
Personally i woulnt go with A or B you cant mix in all mix with the light mix you will burn the seedlings.you have to make a decent 4 inch or more tennis ball shaped hole in the hotter mix soil and fill it with a light mix soil, so the seedling can start in that and when its ready to it will work its way into the good stuff.
Sorry i didnt really help but you should check out the link, FD seemed to really know what he was doing and im pretty sure i got such good results because of the soil batch i made up from his ingredients.
Go do some reading thats what this site is here for, if no body is answering your questions you got to look for the answers yourself.

 

[officinalis]

Hey LR, welcome to the forum man. I'm only on my first indoor grow using this type of organic mix but when I started my seeds I just filled the top three inches or so of the container with a mix of coco fiber and perlite. It worked well for me.

 

[Guerrilla_in_the_mist]

I'll preface the following by pointing out that I am by absolutely no means an authority on this - I'm working my second grow, and the first wasn't trouble free, to put it mildly - ha ha!

However - before starting the second one, I did a fair bit more reading - and I have every reason to believe it will go much smoother than the first (fingers crossed!).

For the second grow - I mixed up a simple organic mix, which apparently had good results for a number of people.

I mixed up a cubic foot of soil - 1/3 sphagnum peat moss
1/3 worm castings
1/3 perelite

To which I added - 1 cup of Dolomite lime
4 cups of glacial rock dust
1.5 cups alfalfa meal
3.5 cups of amendment - made up of a mixture of organic fertilizer (4-4-4), organic blood/bone meal, Neem meal, veg targeted bat guano (higher in N), and bloom targeted bat guano (higher in P).

I mixed well - moistened well with a mixture of water, molasses and kelp concentrate tea - and left it to cook for a month, mixing once a week.

I planted a germed Hobbit seed directly into this soil - and it is progressing nicely (Day 32 above ground) so far.

From what I've read - the safety factor lies in the cooking time. Freshly mixed organic soil is very much hotter than a mix thats had time to cook, break down and mellow over a stretch of time.

Anyway - take all that for what its worth - I'm very new to this, and this is my first grow with a organic soil mix - but I did my "due diligence" and researched quite a bit more than I did before starting my first grow.

Great luck with your grow - whatever you decide!